woodworker questions on vintage frames

[mudfud]

hi again

I'm trying to restore this wooden side piece on my sankyo vintage. I think that someone forced the front door open, and split the wood.

questions:

what kind of wood is this? can I find a piece to replace it easily? is this wood expensive? could i substitute something else and stain it?

can I patch it with bondo wood filler (probably unsightly, right?)

how do I get those notches... dado's? on the end??? no router or table saw... have small hand saw and chop saw.

I expect that jeff has ideas, as he's done some beautiful wood work on his vintages.

I don't want to replace the whole frame, just the one piece.

also, when you refinish, when you sand down the whole thing, how do you keep from sanding across grain where the pieces meet? is a clear polyurethane a good cover coating?

thanks for ideas.

[luckydog]

maybe someone has a parts machine that they could pull the piece off of.

[JACKSJE4]

Mud,

The wood is Japanese mahogany. My neighbor is in the plastics business and he gets crates of sheet plastic from Japan. The crates are made from the exact same wood. As for creating the notches, you could use a dado bit and a table saw, or a jigsaw.

Are there any indentions or cutouts on the inside of that side of the frame? Usually there are routed areas so that the door lock mechanism will fit and work. If so, I use a router to duplicate those indentions.

Always remember: Measure twice, cut once.

Good luck!

Jeff

[mudfud]

good point, lucky. i'll ask around. johnny may have one I can salvage.

jeff, you're right that there was a routed thing in the back, but most of it is gone now, so I'll grind a new slot where ever it needs to be.

can I buy japanese mahogany at the regular hardware store? how about if I substitute redwood, it wouldn't look that different, right?

I think I can fake the dado cuts with my saws. by hand if nothing else.

[compirate]

Put a sticker on it

[mudfud]

Put a sticker on it

now there's an idea... cover it with wood grained vinyl contact paper

[JACKSJE4]

I may be able to send you a piece of the Japanese mahogany that my neighbor has. His garage is full and he has offered it to me. I would just need to make sure that the pieces he has are wide enough for a pachi frame.

[mudfud]

I may be able to send you a piece of the Japanese mahogany that my neighbor has. His garage is full and he has offered it to me. I would just need to make sure that the pieces he has are wide enough for a pachi frame.

cool! I can email you a fedex label, prepaid, from my friend's account, or just let me know what the postage is.

i'll PM you the address

thanks!

[Moparformances]

u can cut the joints by hand with a coping saw... or next time your in the area i can led a hand

let me know

oak would work as well and easy to get at any home depot

[mudfud]

would oak match the japanese mahogony well enough? I thought it was kinda yellow, and this looks kinda pink...

[lasse-pin]

I think oak is too hard.Japanese mahagony is rather soft.I think it can be difficult to put them together.Then the color don't to well if You dont treat it whith something i dont have the english word for .It's not paint,it sucks in to the wood.I've jused both beech and alder In that case i did build a new cabinette(?) see pictures on my pages.When I jused beech I just extended the old cabinette to hang it on a wall .
Well, I do like wood...

[mudfud]

I think oak is too hard.Japanese mahagony is rather soft.I think it can be difficult to put them together.Then the color don't to well if You dont treat it whith something i dont have the english word for .It's not paint,it sucks in to the wood.I've jused both beech and alder In that case i did build a new cabinette(?) see pictures on my pages.When I jused beech I just extended the old cabinette to hang it on a wall .
Well, I do like wood...

I think you mean "stain" to color the wood but not cover the grain?

jeff is going to get me a piece of authentic japanese mahogany, so I should be set.

what color are beech and alder?

[Moparformances]

i know alder is a light wood

i believe beech is as well
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by any chanch do u have the broken piece??

[Lddrizzt]

what color are beech and alder?

I think they are wood colored.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[johnnynormal510]

I think I have two frames that I am not using... atleast one I'm sure!

COME AND GET IT!
(Easier said than done huh? Busy schedules!)

[JACKSJE4]

My neighbor gave me two 4ft pieces of the Japanese mahogany from his garage this evening. Some pieces have a lot of red in them and others don't. Holding the wood next to one of my vintage pachi frames, it looks very similar in grain and texture. The coloring does vary a little. It is a solid, dense wood and somewhat heavy, making it sturdy enough to hold a pachi.

It's on the way to you Chewy!!

Jeff

[lasse-pin]

Beech is light yellowbrown and alder is light red

[digital1]

Put a sticker on it

You makin fun of me?

[lasse-pin]

Piece of wood from Sweden ?

[mudfud]

now that I took care of the cracked piece of wood, I am looking to refinish a bunch of frames.

so, the questions are

1) how do you sand the pieces and not go cross grain where they meet at right angles?

2) what do you recommend on grit for sand paper?

3) what finish would be appropriate, to be authentic? watco oil? polyurethane?

thanks for ideas from you pachi wood workers.