What are your thoughts on this

[rockston]

The concept of funneling winnings back to the prize tray during a fever was brought to my attention by one of my customers. It does
solve the problem of having to fill up the prize tray during a fever round or having to shuffle trays around. I can see how this set up might work well
with those who only have a a single machine set up at a time and limited space but want all the action of the balls moving around. We are talking about 2 lifters
one in front and one in back both fill a slightly extended prize tray. What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uoe8XLg-X0

[Wayne-Ooo]

If you are playing a machine with a limited amount of balls, (not enough balls to get you through multiple fever rounds), then at some point you are going to have to stop playing and move the winning balls from the front to the back.

A ball lifter only keeps you playing if you are losing, that's what it does, moves losing balls. So, if you don't have enough balls, a lifter on the front would work great. Now you have something moving the losing and winning balls.

Another option would be to channel the winning balls to the lifter in the back. I would probably make a cabinet for the machine and design it so I could open the blast gate on the winning ball tray and the balls would flow to the lifter in the back. But, you could probably also design something to set under the winning ball tray, with channels that wrapped around the machine to to lifter.

But, then again, might be easier to just put a lifter in front, to move the winning balls.

[kiffland]

As Wayne-Ooo suggested, I modified my TOKIO Premium to send winning balls out the back and go into the cyclone lifter along with the losing balls. I had to modify the cyclone lifter somewhat to accommodate the additional amount of balls that it had to handle, but the mods were relatively easy. So now I can play all day with or without fevers and never have to pause to refill the hopper.

[rockston]

So this morning I redid the front plumbing one piece and while checking it out, I got a fever. This was the first time I didn't have to shuffle any balls or trays around during one.
Fever Video > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNG0O19_My4 New Plumbing.jpg

[Atoombolle]

Really nice. Except you don't have any sensation of winning anything, similar to a circulation machine... I keep track of my winning by filling a tub with balls, then pouring the tub in the top when it's full, counting over time how many tubs of balls I've won (I can't actually seem to lose with the machine I have over time, so I'm currently at 24 tubs of winnings since I started keeping track).

As an improvement, I'd add a sensor and counter to your ball lifter output. .

[rockston]

[QUOTE=Atoombolle;633392]Really nice. Except you don't have any sensation of winning anything, similar to a circulation machine... I keep track of my winning by filling a tub with balls, then pouring the tub in the top when it's full, counting over time how many tubs of balls I've won (I can't actually seem to lose with the machine I have over time, so I'm currently at 24 tubs of winnings since I started keeping track).

As an improvement, I'd add a sensor and counter to your ball lifter output. That's always an option for someone who wants to keep track of that! In a perfect world I would set it all up like a parlor, I haven't the space so this is second best for me.

[rockston]

If you are playing a machine with a limited amount of balls, (not enough balls to get you through multiple fever rounds), then at some point you are going to have to stop playing and move the winning balls from the front to the back.

A ball lifter only keeps you playing if you are losing, that's what it does, moves losing balls. So, if you don't have enough balls, a lifter on the front would work great. Now you have something moving the losing and winning balls.

Another option would be to channel the winning balls to the lifter in the back. I would probably make a cabinet for the machine and design it so I could open the blast gate on the winning ball tray and the balls would flow to the lifter in the back. But, you could probably also design something to set under the winning ball tray, with channels that wrapped around the machine to to lifter.

But, then again, might be easier to just put a lifter in front, to move the winning balls.

Those are all great points as usual Wayne. Yet another option would be a hybrid of a recycler: Just the one lifter in the front and channel the losing balls back to the front overflow tray internally. The downside being cutting that pathway in your machine that the next guy might not want.

[rockston]

Really nice. Except you don't have any sensation of winning anything, similar to a circulation machine... I keep track of my winning by filling a tub with balls, then pouring the tub in the top when it's full, counting over time how many tubs of balls I've won (I can't actually seem to lose with the machine I have over time, so I'm currently at 24 tubs of winnings since I started keeping track).

As an improvement, I'd add a sensor and counter to your ball lifter output. .

Whipped this together this morning for you Cyclone Counter.jpg Video of it working here https://youtube.com/shorts/Z3qif3fbtB0?feature=share

[Atoombolle]

Very nice. Saw the video on Facebook earlier today. That's a modification you may have to market . It looks like it fits just about perfectly under the dispenser. Or does the machine need a bit of a lift?

[rockston]

Very nice. Saw the video on Facebook earlier today. That's a modification you may have to market . It looks like it fits just about perfectly under the dispenser. Or does the machine need a bit of a lift?

Thanks, I may be able to just fit it all in there or worst case I might have to do something like this and extend the front. xxx.jpg

[rockston]

Green LED counter just fits. Now I can actually see the numbers! https://youtube.com/shorts/jMstGTdppOA?feature=share

[MrGneiss]

Pretty cool!!

[takethecastle57]

So how do I get and install one of these on my Rockston ?

[rockston]

So how do I get and install one of these on my Rockston ?

Thanks for asking TTK. We are still in the early testing stage but I am thinking about it.

[Atoombolle]

Take another thanks from me for encouragement. I'm with Castle, although I'll keep my existing Rockston pristine and will get a second one instead once the counter hits the market

[rockston]

Green Machine.jpg I hate painting with a passion however I might do one for myself.