Anyone have parts for a Kyoraku?

[owennewton]

OK here are pics of wiring, what the light holder looks like and the loader that is missing from yours. If you need more shots or of another area it will be easy now that I have it out

[smedlyp]

Much appreciated. Hope I can get mine as clean as yours.

[smedlyp]

Hank,

Would you mind snapping a few other pics for me? If you would take a closeup pic of the back at the bottom where the 'winner balls" exit
and just above there where the small black plastic piece holds the "winner bar". Also, I am trying to find the bulb holders for the "winner lights" and didn't know if they are able to be popped out so I could see what they look like. Appreciate the help.

OK here are pics of wiring, what the light holder looks like and the loader that is missing from yours. If you need more shots or of another area it will be easy now that I have it out

[smedlyp]

OK, here are the updated pictures of Popeye after taking apart everything that was possible to be taken apart and cleaned. Still have to get the lights working and work on getting overflow tray repaired. Sorry ebb, the one I got from you wouldn't fit with this layout but thanks for trying to help. I think I am going to have to wet sand the hell out of it (and take my time ) and try to repaint it. Still have repaint some of the winner pockets and other plastic pieces.

I can get the machine to work when I bypass the solenoid (electric shooter) but I would really like to get that working. Anyone know what type of transformer is needed?

A big for all the help.

[Moparformances]

I can get the machine to work when I bypass the solenoid (electric shooter) but I would really like to get that working. Anyone know what type of transformer is needed?

A big for all the help.

can you post a pic ot the solenoid your bypasing...

when i need power for a vintage i get a transformer from radioshack.. if ya check this thread...
http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/vint...wer-flash.html

2nd post, Coventrycat posted a pic of the transformer i would recomend for any vintage requiring power..

at first glance yours looks like all that it really needs power for is the lights... i dont see a solonoid..

[smedlyp]

It is in the loading/shooting mec. Here are a couple of pics. I used a nail to hold it shut so it would load.

can you post a pic ot the solenoid your bypasing...

when i need power for a vintage i get a transformer from radioshack.. if ya check this thread...
http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/vint...wer-flash.html

2nd post, Coventrycat posted a pic of the transformer i would recomend for any vintage requiring power..

at first glance yours looks like all that it really needs power for is the lights... i dont see a solonoid..

[Moparformances]

interesting.. can ya post a pic of the lower back left..(shooter mech)..

what activates the solonoid to advance the balls.. is ther a contact point on the shooter mech?

i have not seen one like that in person

[smedlyp]

Here is a pic of the contacts behind the solanoid in the front and the back behind the flipper. Also is a pic of the switch which connects to the contacts. I think that the used ball (whether it is a winner ball or miss) trips the contact upon exiting which then loads a ball for the next shot. Problem is that where the contact is, there is a small balck plastic piece that rotates out to trip the switch but it is on a separate exit tube from the others and I don't know how a ball ever gets into it. Check out the 3rd pic in owennewton's post above. Looks like I am missing the bottom contact while he is missing the upper one?

interesting.. can ya post a pic of the lower back left..(shooter mech)..

what activates the solonoid to advance the balls.. is ther a contact point on the shooter mech?

i have not seen one like that in person

[owennewton]

and in mine the upper plastic arm that you pinned with the nail was removed so power was not needed to make the loader work

[smedlyp]

It looks like ours are different in where the switch is located in the back as my chute does not have the outer extension that yours does. I must be missing to pieces. The black arm that hangs over the winner arm and one that connects it all together. Then again I don't have a whole lot of ecperience trying to figure out the electrical part of these. It would be my preference to get it to work the correct way.

and in mine the upper plastic arm that you pinned with the nail was removed so power was not needed to make the loader work

[Moparformances]

does not make sense that a shot ball would trip the solonoid to allow the next ball to be shot... a player can shoot balls faster then the machine will allow another ball to advance to the shooter..

when im playing some times i can shoot fast enought to have 4 or 5 balls on the play field at one time.. some times not matter how fas ya shoot the balls find there way threw the nails so fast that there is only one at a time???

you have a most unusual machine... (at least i think so )

best of luck geting it to work like is was intended

[owennewton]

`I think the solinoid is for when winning balls back up in the lower tray on the front. When they back up it pushes a plate out, opening a leaf switch and shutting off the solinoid. when that happens it blocks balls from going to the shooter. So on mine (both of them) they took the arm out to keep it working without having to have power.

[smedlyp]

Now THATmakes more sense. Thanks

`I think the solinoid is for when winning balls back up in the lower tray on the front. When they back up it pushes a plate out, opening a leaf switch and shutting off the solinoid. when that happens it blocks balls from going to the shooter. So on mine (both of them) they took the arm out to keep it working without having to have power.

[Moparformances]

Smedlyp..

u do see the shooter spring is totaly wrong on this machine...

im glad Owen was able to shed some light on this.. and yes that makes way more sense

[smedlyp]

I replaced the one that was on there with a new one from Lowes which I looped it around the post (doubled it up). What did you see wrong with the one that was on there?

Smedlyp..

u do see the shooter spring is totaly wrong on this machine...

im glad Owen was able to shed some light on this.. and yes that makes way more sense

[Moparformances]

the spring pictured is really short.. hear is an up shot that showes the proper kind of spring instaled

this is an Arrangeball machine but there is less stuff in the way

DSCF3632.jpg

and a pic of jsut the spring

DSCF3631.jpg

[smedlyp]

That looks like the one I just put on the machine however I dont think I have that long of a run available with the machine setup. I will have to take another look. THanks

the spring pictured is really short.. hear is an up shot that showes the proper kind of spring instaled

this is an Arrangeball machine but there is less stuff in the way

DSCF3632.jpg

and a pic of jsut the spring

DSCF3631.jpg