Open Question On Condition

[arbycoffee]

It sounds like in the last four to six month the condition of the machines, both pacghinko and pachislo are in worse condition than they use to be in before.

The tried and true vendors:

Stealth Home Amusement (Pachinko/Pashislo)
SlotUSA.com; Joe (Pachinko/Pashislo)
Texas Auction (Pachinko/Pashislo)
Gameroom Warehouse (Pachinko/Pashislo)
Slots Direct.com (Pachinko/Pashislo)
AMERICAN SYSCOM, INC. (Pachinko /Pashislo)
David Sherry (Pashislo)
Direct Gaming International (DGI) (Pashislo)
Big Bear Pachislo Shop (Pashislo)

in the past did send out junk like what everybody is writing about. True some didn't clen their machines as good as others and us old timers remember the NO KEY for Pachinkos and the lies hooked to that by TA.
But they sent out a complete playable machine in good working order.

So what say You ?

Am I Right or Wrong here ?

[Sid]

Listing to all the posts etc the last few months i too must agree that things as of late are going down hill..



just wondering if its just a trend and things will sort themselves out or its a nosedive via the quick cash screw the buyer type thing...

[drcrippen324]

well theres only one vendor in the US that i can honistly say i havent herd a complaint about an we all know who that is

[Sid]

Valley Gaming ?

[drcrippen324]

you gonna get things thrown at you by the boss for comments like that

[arbycoffee]

Me aside here please . . . .

It is just since the prices have nosedived down to damn cheap, are the vendor cutting corners to make ends meet ? And as to valley, they have always been cutting corners to be cheap. This is not new for them, but the others ?

[drcrippen324]

i dont condone it but i guess if some one is cutting there throat to get rid of the competition then you gotta share the knife

where as if they used there brains then they wouold stick it out and peopl ewouldent mind paying a little more to get a good product in the end

[Sid]

perhaps its not cutting corners to make ends meet but more along the lines of ok since they are getting away with it why dont we do it as well?

[hanabi]

well theres only one vendor in the US that i can honistly say i havent herd a complaint about an we all know who that is

Some people like to take a chance on a cheap price, sometimes it pays off, lately it seems it hasn't been.........

I prefer not to take that chance.......

......and I can honestly say that there's only one Vendor in the UK that I trust to source, prepare, pack and post my Treasured Pachinkos!!

[drcrippen324]

perhaps its not cutting corners to make ends meet but more along the lines of ok since they are getting away with it why dont we do it as well?

Intresting thought sid could be ???

[arbycoffee]

Some people like to take a chance on a cheap price, sometimes it pays off, lately it seems it hasn't been.........

I prefer not to take that chance.......

......and I can honestly say that there's only one Vendor in the UK that I trust to source, prepare, pack and post my Treasured Pachinkos!!

He is cutie in green too! :lol8:

[arbycoffee]

So when is the cheap price not enough ?

Figure in your phone call cost and aggravation cost and buying parts from other vendors.

When is cheap to costly ?

[Sid]

well im thinking using Samurai Slots example.

you flood the market with machines at a cheap price don't offer anything on the lines of warranty etc etc you are basically getting the machine as is. (and in some cases where is?)
with such low prices you have people doing what Hanabi suggested.. oh what the heck lets take the risk.. its only $40 if it doesnt work it doesnt work.

they take the plunge and then they basically as the old saying goes.
"no one can take advantage of you without your permission"

i dont know. as some of the members have pointed out sometimes the deals are too good to pass up. and although they have been mildly burned. you'll see them buying again. knowing full well what they are to expect.

[drcrippen324]

the problem is $40 is cheap for a machine but a cheap machine is onley cheap at a first glance and on initial payment then factor in the shipping that usualy makes $100 and $100 is alot more to loose than $40 after that the gamble begins and hey we all know the only way to win is to own the casino

[Sid]

So when is the cheap price not enough ?

Figure in your phone call cost and aggravation cost and buying parts from other vendors.

When is cheap to costly ?

A lot of people don't filter in these costs. they think that oh well its just a phone call etc etc.

cant comprehend the "time is money" thing..

[Sid]

oh a cheap machine is onley cheap at a first glance and on initial payment after that the gamble begins and hey we all know the only way to win is to own the casino

who hasn't wanted to strike it rich on that magical nickel?

[arbycoffee]

the vendor did . . . .

by not doing anything to the machine, he cuts his cost to the bone

[Sid]

well the vendors can make money as you well know from various things

1) less tokens/balls
2) Little or no Prep
3) packaging
4) underpowered transformers

and im sure there are other places they can skimp

[drcrippen324]

hell it sounds like your lucky that they put one screw in a transformer from what has been said about them coming loose in transit or just plain hanging off

[Sid]

i'm sure thats an extreme example but it wouldn't surprise me.

How about feet? does everyone include feet?