My first machine, and then my second and third...

[xjn]

Hi! I accidentally ran across a vintage pachinko machine on Craigslist. I remember seeing one of these as a kid 30 years ago and have wanted one ever since, so I bought one, then a couple more.

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Bought the first one on Sunday.. Nishijin.. Ebira is apparently a lobster monster acquaintance of Gojira . Is this a model C? I cleaned it up a little, some bulbs are busted and the fuse/hookup block is missing. Had a total of 12 balls with it, all stuck in the jackpot. Also included was a rusty pinball, the guy thought it belonged with the machine. Cost me $50.


Then Monday, I bought these two...

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Daiichi... my daughter says the center feature looks like a vampire. Lights work, and jackpots get paid out. A couple hundred balls came with it and I played this one last night until the jackpot ran dry and balls were overflowing into the bottom tray. So much FUN! Cost $30.


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Then this... Nishijin.. Power Flash.. Haven't plugged it in yet because some wiring is loose and I want to understand it before I catch the house on fire... Heavy! Looks to be in great shape. Big lighted switch on the bottom tray. Got it for $30.

Anything I should know about these?

I think I did pretty good for my first two days. Now to see if I can stop buying these things before I fill up the house.

[Moparformances]

Welcome to Pachitalk

Great looking machines top and bottom are both Model "B" machines and the middle is a Model "B" style of machine..

if you need any help with them feel free to ask..

and just a FYI the power flash works on 10 to 12 volts and 24 volts respectivley...

[yose]

Welcome to pachitalk, a very nice collection .

[Rival]

Is this the St. Louis batch?

[xjn]

I am in St. Louis... not sure what you mean by St. Louis Batch, but I suspect that it is. The first one was from a different seller than the last two.

[mxfaiman]

so I bought one, then a couple more...
I think I did pretty good for my first two days. Now to see if I can stop buying these things before I fill up the house.

Your Hooked! Welcome to the club. With the way things sounds it seems like you may end up like a few of us. You go out and buy one, then you buy another two or three more, then you can't stop buying, and then you end up with 60 machines +, and IT NEVER STOPS!!

Though this is a good thing because it sounds like you are able to find them cheap. So you can clean them up and sell them back off. Also to me the best part of vintage pachinko machines really is cleaning/restoring them, (which is right next to playing them).

Good luck and if you have any questions please feel free to ask.

P.S. I'm so jealous you were able to get a power flash for $30. They are selling for $100+ at the moment! So I can't even get near buying one.

[Drunkenclam]

Welcome Aboard



The Force is strong in this one

[MrGneiss]

WELCOME!!!

[takethecastle57]

The PowerFlash Pachinko was the most frustrating Pachinko in the late 70's early 1980's cause of the coils and levers just for the Tulips !! My Dad bought one and I didn't know back then that it needed a 24 volt ac 5 amp output power transformer Let alone know where to pick one up back then it wound up Rusting on a exposed to Wisconsin Winters screened porch .

[xjn]

Thanks everybody for the welcome.

I rewired the PowerFlash last night and managed to not kill anything. The wiring between the wall cord, the transformer and the power switch was hanging loose with bare wire ends everywhere. I have everything wired together with wire nuts now, but they get in the way of the ball box. I'm picturing the wire nuts getting knocked off by the ball box and having a box full of pachinko balls at 120v... ouch. Makes me nervous reaching back there without looking first, I need to find a better way to secure this.

The lights are working now all except for the power switch on the bottom tray. It looks like it has a little Christmas tree type light in there, the switch itself has three leads coming out of it, I determined which were the switch leads with a multimeter, but can't figure out where the third lead (which I'm assuming is for the light) is supposed to connect. Would it go to the 120v side or to the 24v side of the transformer? Xmas lights run on 120v so.. i dunno. I believe the switch was added by Pachinko Factory.

Unfortunately the servos don't seem to do anything. They don't seem stuck, but measuring the power across the leads at the connector board gave me something like 1.5v. Any hints on where to start troubleshooting this?

The Nishijin Ebira machine has constant jackpot jams... the balls double up in the chute because the cover is missing. I saw somebody here make one out of cardboard... Is that the best way to fix this?

thanks everybody! great to meet you all!

[CarlW]

The Nishijin Ebira machine has constant jackpot jams... the balls double up in the chute because the cover is missing. I saw somebody here make one out of cardboard... Is that the best way to fix this?

I am assuming you are talking about a model B, the lower ball feeder cover? The vintage pachinko website has them for sale. I made a plastic cast of one and had mixed results. Card Wii sent me one made out of bent metal and it worked perfectly. Mopar is another great source for some things as well. I'm guessing they will post a reply. I also made one out of sheet plastic, balsa and epoxy, it worked just fine too.

http://store02.prostores.com/servlet...ers/Categories

http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/vint...o-machine.html

[mxfaiman]

here is some pictures of mopars cover: post #13

http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/vint...t-machine.html

I have two of them on my machines and they work great. all it is is some 16th inch aluminum or steel and a hunk of foam. Probably fairly cheap to make.

[Moparformances]

as for the wire nuts toss them in the trash...

get your self a solder gun and some heat shring tubing... way better concact and no risk of them ever falling off...
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the one problem with a Power flash is... if some one put 110 volts to it.. that will burn up the diaods the convert the 24 volts from ac power to DC power..

please take some time and post a few pics of how you have the power hooked up right now... i know there a few thread i have writen on Power flash power hookups.. let me look threw and ill post tonight for ya...

the best way to look at your machine is to remove the fuse block and check the back of it for damage...

[Moparformances]

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this is a pic of the fuse block the white wires are for the lights.. (like any normal Vintage)

Power for the solonoids is hard to see but is under and behind the power for the lights..

Top fuse is for the lights.. bottom fuse is for the solonoids..



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this is the back side of the fuse box.. the single white and orange wires are for the lights.. the double strand grey wire is power in for the solonoids.. (24 volts)





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Ya can see hear i fliped over the circuit board to expose the 4 diodes.. (these are what gets burnt when and if 110 volts are sent threw them)

now refer back to pic #1 and see the plug that is beside the 2 fuses.. (black plug 2 orange wires) this is now 24 DC power that goes into power the solonoids..

I have bought new Diodes at Radio Shack for replacements.. the problem is when i tryed it other parts were fried.. (this attempt was on a Circuit racer machine a few years back)

(Max has a Circuit racer Machine that has burnt Diodes as well but his circuit board was good when last tested)

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and for Power these are what i use... they work great on Power Flash and Circuit racer machines...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220496712293&ssPageName=STRK:MEW AX:IT

Love them

this transformer will provide 24 vots to the solonoids and 12 volts to the lights.. one power source for everything

Hope this helps ya out.. hope this makes sense.. those that have a PF please feel free to corect anything or add to if i missed something??

[mxfaiman]

and for Power these are what i use... they work great on Power Flash and Circuit racer machines...

NEW 25.2V CT 2.0A HEAVY-DUTY CHASSIS-MOUNT TRANSFORMER - eBay (item 220496712293 end time Jun-09-11 19:12:39 PDT)

Love them

Do you have a newer listing because this one seems to be too old. Thanks for the pictures by the way they'll help out eventually.

[Moparformances]

Do you have a newer listing because this one seems to be too old. Thanks for the pictures by the way they'll help out eventually.

ummmmmm i thought that was an active listing

im at work right now and no access to Da-bay allowed

[xjn]

I will take some photos of the wiring tonight when I get home. The pics you posted are great help... There are a pair of black carbon looking rods in place of the fuses. I'm not sure what they are.

So instead of the diode bridge rectifier circuit, you recommend a dual tap transformer? That makes a lot of sense. I can't see anything at the link you provided... can you send a newer link so I can see what you have in mind?

I think I'll just try to fab a ball cover for the lower ball feed on the Ebira. The Power Flash still has the original one so I can use that as a pattern.

Picked up a couple more machines last night.. both were pretty dirty and I haven't even shot a ball in either one yet.

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Nishijin... some clown or puckman guy in the center. The background is exactly the same as my first machine, the Ebira one. Looks to be in pretty good shape and came with a little pair of legs. $30.

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Sankyo.. features some kinda dog creature. Very dirty and came with the little legs. Looks like a bit of moisture damage around some pins. Some paint on the center feature of both of these is rubbed or flaking off. $30.

My wife has informed me, in no uncertain terms, that I now have enough pachinko machines.

Thank you all.

[Moparformances]

I will take some photos of the wiring tonight when I get home. The pics you posted are great help... There are a pair of black carbon looking rods in place of the fuses. I'm not sure what they are.

Pics are a great help... worth a thousand words easy

So instead of the diode bridge rectifier circuit, you recommend a dual tap transformer? That makes a lot of sense. I can't see anything at the link you provided... can you send a newer link so I can see what you have in mind?

Im no Sparky ... but i have an over simplefied understanding of houw these things work now and then..

the Transformer listed above provides the 24 votls for the solonoids and the center tap or spliter wire will provide 12 vots that can be used for lights..

this power is AC.. the Diodes convert the 24 ac to 24 dc to make the machine work... the parlors worked in the same way.. im jsut guessing they had huge transformes and ran many machines off of one..

its my understanding that the diode bridge rectifier jsut converts the ac to dc?? that is required

My wife has informed me, in no uncertain terms, that I now have enough pachinko machines.

ya ya ya

Yes Dear last one I promis

[xjn]

I promised her I wouldn't buy any more...

this week...

[mxfaiman]

Man you are really buying those fast. There must be many for sale in your area. I take it that they are all fairly cheap too. If you keep buying like this you might hit ten by the end of this month.

great new buys by the way. Can you post some pictures of the backs when you get a chance? The more pictures the better.