Importing pachislo

[noobie]

When I first learned about pachislo, I couldn't understand how the machines could be so cheap. After I ordered one, I could understand it even less. I couldn't see the dealers could possibly be making any money.

Being a curious person by nature, I decided to try and find out exactly how much profit they're making on each machine. The answer appears to be "not much."

I contacted a couple importers and priced a 40' container, replete with around 480 machines. Now considering that the dealers we buy the machines from are cleaning them up and making sure everything is working perfectly, they must be spending some time on each machine. Based on what the dealers are charging and what the importer charges, the profit on each machine is pretty low.

Here's the letter I got from the importer:

Thank you very much for your January 9.

We are pleased to know that you are interested in used Japanese pachislo machines.
In reply to your request, we wish to send you information as below.

1)Condition : After testing electricity test and check all the parts are with necessary parts.
The machines year is usual 3- 4 years, but some of them are very new like 2003, or 2004.

2)Packing : Bulk in container with suitable cushion.
In a 40’hi-cube container, we usually pack about 450 - 460 units, while standard 40’ container, about 400 units can be packed.
The minimum order is 20 feet container and the available packing quantity is about 200 units.

3)Price : (based on the quantity of 40'hi-cube container)
100 VOLT MACHINES : F.O.B. JAPAN US$45.00/UNIT
24 VOLT MACHINES : F.O.B. JAPAN US$39.00/UNIT
JAPANESE TITTLE MACHINES : F.O.B. JAPAN US$27.00/UNIT
PREMIUM MACHINES : F.O.B. JAPAN US$55 - US$200.00/UNIT
TOKENS : F.O.B. JAPAN US$0.025/PIECE
You can choose the machines from the list by above prices.
* Ocean freight and other necessary cost at your place are not included in above pricing.

We also have some bargain lot of all mixed 100 volt, 24 volt, Japanese, Premium machines at US$44.00/UNIT. (Including 400 pcs tokens per each machines.)
At this price, the assortment are fixed and you are unable to select machines.
Please find the attached sheet. This is our current available list.

4)Shipment :
We will fix the date of container packing after receiving deposit T/T as confirmation.

5)Payment :
50% of total amount as deposit.
The balance to be paid immediately after receipt of B/L copy by fax.
As soon as we receive the balance, we will dispatch shipping document by EMS.

If there are anything unclear, please feel free to contact us anytime.

Thank you for your study and we are looking forward to hearing you again soon.

Here's the list of machines that you get at the flat $44 per machine price (which does NOT include overseas shipping nor freight to your door!):

RE : NEWEST LIST FROM MAIN SUPPLIER

100 VOLT ENGLISH TITTLE MACHINES
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KITA HYPER JUGGLER 10

ARUZE DYNA WORLD 3
HANABI 3
DON CHAN 2
BEAST SAPP 2
SINDBAD ADVENTURE 2
GOLD XR 20
MILLION GOD 15
AZTECA 5
CONTI 4X 2
BABEL 2

DAIDOH DON DON KING 10

YAMASA NEO PLANET 5

OLYMPIA TRIC MONSTER 5
TWIST 1

TECHNO GUNDAM 5

IGT DANCE NIGHT 2
AUSTIN POWERS 1

100 VOLT ENGLISH 95
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100 VOLT JAPANESE TITTLE MACHINES
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ARUZE OOHANABI 5
BAKUCHOO 10
MIYAMOTO MUSASHI 10

ABILIT CYBORG 009 12

OLYMPIA NANIWA SAKURA 5

100 VOLT JAPANESE 42
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24 VOLT ENGLISH TITTLE MACHINES
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YAMASA NEO PHARAO 1
NEO MAGIC PULSAR 5

BELCO MAGIC BAR 12
AUTOMATIC 5
SUPER BINGO 50
DIGI FLUSH 20
GOLDEN BELL 5
MONKEY VS CRAB 10
DIGI NANA 15
FINAL 711 10

SAMMY BETTY BOOP 1
CHARLIES ANGEL 2
KING CAMEL 10
POPYE 1

NET SUPER BLACK JACK 4
RIO DE CARNIVAL 1

BALTEC BANKER NINE 3

IGT THE TERMINATOR 10

FUJI THUNDER BIRD 15
ARE KING 9

TAKASAGO 007 3

OOIZUMI SPEC A 3

EMA VIGOR Z 4

24 VOLT ENGLISH 199
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24 VOLT JAPANESE TITTLE MACHINES
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SNK DRAGON GAL 2

SAMMY JUUOO 5
GIN GIN MARU 5
MAKKACHIN 5
HINO KUNI 5
WAN TOUCHABULL 5
DARUMA NEKO 5
KYOJIN NO HOSHI 50
HOKUTO NO KEN 10
MOOJUUOO 10
SALARY MAN KINTAROO 4
ULTRA 2000X 5

ARISTCRAT MACHA GO GO ! 15

BALTEC TONCHAN OREIZUM 5

NET JUUJIKA 10
DEKA DAN 5
SHOOKIN KUBI 5

24 VOLT JAPANESE 151
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100 VOLT ENGLISH 95
100 VOLT JAPANESE 42
24 VOLT ENGLISH 199
24 VOLT JAPANESE 151
TOTAL 487

[drcrippen324]

Tell me about it i was looking to becoming a vendor in the uk but looking at the quotes i have had to ship to uk and buy machines i just couldent compeat and make an honist living as i have to buy strait from japan wich works out dearer as i cant find anyone in usa willing to ship so if anyone who reads this can help me out pleas pm or email me so as not to post details ect as i have been looking since the beginning of september to no avail

[luckydog]

Some vendors have buyers in Japan selecting machines for them to fill a cointainer. they get better machines that way. and usually better prices,
The buyers deal directly with the palours and get better deals.
The logistics of buying a container from Japan yourself are staggering, and if customs decides there is a problem all is lost.

[aaapachislo]

Unless I am looking at something totally different I think there is pretty good money to be made. I am flying to texas and driving a truck back with 170 machines in a couple weeks that are coming from Gaku.

Take just tokens for example, they average on ebay for around 0.048 each and only cost about 0.03 with shipping. It should be easy to sell at least 250k a month if you sell auctions for 250, 500, 1000 at a time every hour lets say 8 hours a day. Once you take out ebay and paypal fees it should be around 3500-4000 profit a month, and thats tokens alone!

Now machines- With the price of the actual machines, driving a truck back, transformers, ect. it looks like I will average about 76-80 a machine with all different types from basic to premium, of course I will need to clean them myself. While not all machines are listed on eBay that I am getting from Gaku the ones that are listed average for around 130 each, so about a $50 profit before your fees.

Of the 170 machines I am getting there are 47 different titles, and if I want to work my butt off I can get all of them on eBay in 7 days. If you do the math I would say that a pretty good week.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

[aaapachislo]

Oh and I forgot to also mention the other avenues of selling, flea market, newspaper, craigslist, ect.

[slotter]

Good luck, sellyourstuff. It sounds like you have a good positive attitude. You'll need that and more. And, if you treat your customers right, you'll make some money and have fun, too.

[aaapachislo]

Thanks slotter! I will hopefully be launching a website and selling on eBay within the next month or so. I dont want to rush anything and make sure we have everything perfect before we start selling. And hey if anyone is looking for an ipod let me know or check out my auctions at sellyourstuff2 on eBay. I have been selling them for a couple months now. Looks like I am adding pachislo to my products!

[drcrippen324]

like i said my problem is no one in usa so far will ship to uk and shipping alone from japan will cost me $1300 best quote on 12 machines so add price of machine $80low end plus transfomers convert to £ equals £106 the bottom end machines are selling for £130 equals cant compeat in uk market if i could get someone from us to ship i would stand a chance

[Tulsa]

Put your ebay name in your profile and then everyone can see your stuff with just one click on this site.

[Thor]

What auctions, sellyourstuff2 ?

[aaapachislo]

I have IPODS listed right now, and will start selling pachislo in the next month or so.

[luckydog]

Another member from Bradenton, FL

With Nethippy, Dodc2 and me, that makes 4

[aaapachislo]

Luckydog- I will be back on the 22nd with a truck full of machines! You are more than welcome to come check some out if you would like. I am looking at a warehouse on US301 tomorrow near washington blvd. not sure if that is close to you or not.

[Thor]

sellyourstuff2 stop it.... just list a link...


thanks

[luckydog]

Just click on his Ebay logo right below avitar

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsellyourstuff2QQhtZ-1