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    Default Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    so I jumped into this endeavor with 3 machines in various states of disrepair. Finding out my Power Flash was a fake was a big bummer but it's also the one closest to being functional. I'm sooooo close and could use a win while I'm rehabbing the other two.

    I have one tulip that won't open/close....seems to be stuck in the open position. The other three close at the slightest pressure but this one feels like the plastic flippers are locked somehow. No amount of weight can close them. I can't see any obstruction and it doesn't feel like the metal clip is the problem. Any suggestions? I'd love to not have to disassemble the whole thing....
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    Also, while they don't seem to affect its functionality, there are a few details around back that seem amiss.
    1. there is a wire sticking out from the ball return area that I'm sure needs to be connected somewhere. Can anyone tell me where or provide me with a pic that shows what it should be doing?
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    2. The seesaw reset button is super flimsy and just flops around. It works but isn't robust and spring loaded, like my Sankyo. Is that how it's supposed to be?
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    3. This part is just dangling and has no tension. Is that supposed to be the case? It doesn't seem to affect functionality but seems...off.
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    Thanks everyone for your support and patience!

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    1. If a ball will not close/open it, remove and inspect.
    2. That's an overflow wire that will press back against that dangling thing a.k.a. your loading arm preventing the adding of aditional balls to be set into motion. It's part of an overload safety system that keeps your machine from jamming up etc. It will hold and stop it from feeding your front shooter untill your lower tray is void of balls. Your plastic guide is missing that supports this wire that guides it to the small plastic pin that is molded/part of the loading arm.
    3. That's normal for that make and model
    4. Thats normal too. As you pull back on your front shooting arm this will follow its rearward motion and will load a single ball for you to launch into play.

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverballs View Post
    1. If a ball will not close/open it, remove and inspect.
    2. That's an overflow wire that will press back against that dangling thing a.k.a. your loading arm preventing the adding of aditional balls to be set into motion. It's part of an overload safety system that keeps your machine from jamming up etc. It will hold and stop it from feeding your front shooter untill your lower tray is void of balls. Your plastic guide is missing that supports this wire that guides it to the small plastic pin that is molded/part of the loading arm.
    3. That's normal for that make and model
    4. Thats normal too. As you pull back on your front shooting arm this will follow its rearward motion and will load a single ball for you to launch into play.

    Thank you!
    1. I saw on a different thread the advice that I can remove a tulip from the front by gently prying it away from the playfield just enough to get a bit of play in the nail in order to pull it out with a pliars. Presumably, I'd be able to trouble-shoot the tulip at that point and then just re-nail it back to the play field. This is the process you are referring to?
    2. Ok. Thanks! That makes sense. I'll look for pictures of how it's supposed to look if I can't figure out how to connect it.
    3-4. Great!

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    regarding the tulip, in my experience if the prongs are spread too much it will not close no matter what. if nothing is obvious once you have it off the machine try adjusting them inward using some needle-nose pliers etc
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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    Quote Originally Posted by Nogbert View Post
    regarding the tulip, in my experience if the prongs are spread too much it will not close no matter what. if nothing is obvious once you have it off the machine try adjusting them inward using some needle-nose pliers etc
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    SUPER helpful. Thanks! I plan to work on it tonight so I'll give that a try.

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    if they are too narrow though the ball will get trapped below and it will jam. it's a fine balancing act. Could easily be something behind the board is just jammed up too, so taking it out should reveal something at least!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nogbert View Post
    if they are too narrow though the ball will get trapped below and it will jam. it's a fine balancing act. Could easily be something behind the board is just jammed up too, so taking it out should reveal something at least!
    It did indeed. Turns out the prongs were fine... when I removed it, I discovered two balls had gotten wedged side-by-side under the prongs, which is why the tulips wouldn't budge. Actually took a while to dislodge them. No idea how they could have gotten in there and then wedged so hard.

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    In any case, everything is working fine now. Thanks for all your help!

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    It did indeed. Turns out the prongs were fine... when I removed it, I discovered two balls had gotten wedged side-by-side under the prongs, which is why the tulips wouldn't budge. Actually took a while to dislodge them. No idea how they could have gotten in there and then wedged so hard.

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    In any case, everything is working fine now. Thanks for all your help!
    im guessing there was a jam in the whole payout queue causeing balls to backup into all the pay-pockets and tulips. glad you got it figured out!

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    God, you're smart. I took the machine into my classroom today (which was a huge hit) but there were several instances where that exact thing happened (payout queue jammed). Are there common reasons why this might happen? I was too busy to diagnose why things happened...I just fiddled until the jam went away and the kids could play again.

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    God, you're smart. I took the machine into my classroom today (which was a huge hit) but there were several instances where that exact thing happened (payout queue jammed). Are there common reasons why this might happen? I was too busy to diagnose why things happened...I just fiddled until the jam went away and the kids could play again.
    First thing to check would be the see-saw that passes each ball one by one from the queue down to the jackpot lever arm. If it doesn’t pivot freely and/or the mechanism that pulls it back into the up position (powered by the jackpot balls falling onto another see-saw inside) you will get a jam in the queue. Set it up for play and drop a ball in a pocket and watch from behind to see what happens and keep doing so until it jams again. A lot of times these things are extraordinarily nasty on the inside too. Could just be getting caught on a dead moth or in some spiderwebs (no hyperbole)

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    You gotta love the fossilized insects in the vintage pachinko machines
    When things don't go right the 1st time , Step back ,Take a break and come back renewed. RGS

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    I'll keep working on cleaning/fine-tuning it.

    In any case, thanks all for the help in getting my first one here up and running. I have students coming into my room to play it during lunch and during passing periods. They love it!

    As an aside, I cannot imagine how loud those old pachinko parlors must have been. Just this one machine in my classroom is a bit overstimulating when kids play it for 15 min straight... if I get all three set up, I'm going to have to buy noise-cancelling headphones!

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    One of the machines I purchased to clean up/restore had the bells removed by someone who owned it before me. Might want to consider doing that, still plays the same, just a lot quieter.

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    Default Re: Troubleshooting my Nishijin "Power Fake" Model B

    You can also dampen the bells pretty easily by sticking something soft (cotton ball etc)between it and the plastic housing once you have everything exposed

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    "Ah but the bells Ringing are the most fun" Quasimodo
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