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    Default Hi to everyone, please help me wit some photos

    First of all I would like to thank you all for giving away so many information for free:
    About one year ago I started trying to understand, how mechanical Pachinkos work. This forum was a great treasure and I searched it over and over, together with all the videos on youtube. What I want to do is building a pachinko-like machine, mostly out of wood, some 3d printed parts and arduino based elements. Still making plans to realize this idea I have a lot of design elements ready to go.

    As I live in Frankfurt/Germany it is not easy to get original pachinko machines - but finally I found one last week. Now it all has become a double - project.

    I have attached two photos. First one shows the front of the Heiwa machine. I found out that it is in quite good conditions, dirty but mostly all mechanics are still working smooth and nicely.

    The second photo shows the major trouble zone: Missing cover and the payout mechanism has some bigger damages.
    I have found some videos that show the machine working, but the cover is always in place and I do not understand what it looks like, when it is working.

    So beside a big thank you I would appreciate to get a link or photos of the payout mechanism to understand what is missing. I found out that it is not easy to find spare parts. But I want to get my machine working again by rebuilding the missing parts ...

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    and biscuits
    When things don't go right the 1st time , Step back ,Take a break and come back renewed. RGS

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    WELCOME!!!


    I've moved your thread to the vintage section where it should get seen by more people!! afing02:

    "Blowing smoke rings at the moon."

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    Default Re: Hi to everyone, please help me wit some photos

    Welcome to the forums. I don't own a Heiwa machine, but I'm sure someone here can post some pics and maybe even steer you towards getting a part 3D printed.

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    I don't have a Heiwa in my collection, but this payoff dispenser design looks familiar. I'll look and see if I can find what I am thinking of, and if I do have something I'll take on the project of printing you some new 3d pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SibSr View Post
    I don't have a Heiwa in my collection, but this payoff dispenser design looks familiar. I'll look and see if I can find what I am thinking of, and if I do have something I'll take on the project of printing you some new 3d pieces.
    ... thank you that would be very kind

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    I thought it was familiar. I rebuilt a machine a few months ago with that type of dispenser.
    It is a "New Gin", but the dispenser is the same. I'll start working on this shortly. I'll have the white arm and the yellow part also.20240416_114445~2.jpg
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    ... wow, that was fast and really gives me a chance to get the machine working. The photo fits, thank you for your help so far and as I have a lot of cleaning to do there is no need to rush: To see a chance in getting correct measures is a great motivation for me to move on.

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    In the meantime a neighbor helped me with the Japanese sings on the machine: License expired December 1987 and in the middle section on the playfield with probably two working people stands "sporty". The new photo shows the middle section with a lot of springs, which are really dirty. They let the falling ball move into different directions, probably they also make some noise.

    The springs seem to be installed tight, and the nails that fix the plastic are also very (!) tight. Maybe I get access from behind but this all seems very risky for me. I dont' want to damage the plastic parts. So has anyone got experience how to clean springs in place without too much humidity that may damage the playfield?
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    アスレチック = athletic = sportlich

    I think you might be 10 years out on the date, judging by the look of the machine.
    Ian #UKPachinko

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    Drawing for arm has been completed and is currently printing for a test fit. I'll be working on the other part soon.

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    that is such a cool and unique center gimmick
    WANTED: 10 candystore games, pre-1950s Japanese machines, スマートボール (Smart Ball), 1948 Bally Heavy Hitter, Pickwick-style (~1905)
    willing to ship from anywhere.

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    Today I finally found a video of a very similar pachinko mechanism. I had success while searching directly in youtube, without using a search engine. The video shows in good quality details of all parts working correctly, maybe something to share and definitely a help for me to understand how things work. Thank you for the help with the translation @ Drunkenclam ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhRkPt2GqRw

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    I've completed printing and testing the replacement parts. Here they are installed on the machine the parts were modelled from. I played the machine over the weekend and everything works fine.
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    Just PM me with your shipping info and I'll get them going to you.
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    I've delayed shipping so I can print the items out of PETG instead of PLA.
    PETG has a higher melting point and is less likely to be deformed by heat during shipping. PLA can start getting soft at around 100 degrees ambient temperature.
    I am going to send you the third part of the assembly as well, the square guide plate that your yellow part slides on. I'm waiting on a roll of yellow PETG filament to arrive and I should be shipping everything this coming week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewalffm View Post
    In the meantime a neighbor helped me with the Japanese sings on the machine: License expired December 1987 and in the middle section on the playfield with probably two working people stands "sporty". The new photo shows the middle section with a lot of springs, which are really dirty. They let the falling ball move into different directions, probably they also make some noise.

    The springs seem to be installed tight, and the nails that fix the plastic are also very (!) tight. Maybe I get access from behind but this all seems very risky for me. I dont' want to damage the plastic parts. So has anyone got experience how to clean springs in place without too much humidity that may damage the playfield?

    The springs look like metal strips...probably of brass, so long cotton swabs with Brasso or CLR for cleaning the springs in place.
    But to get the feature out, try wiggling the part as you pull up. Or I frequently use a stainless steel ruler (like a mechanic might wear clipped to his pocket) to lift the part from underneath while pulling from the top at the same time.

    pocketrulermethod.jpg

    If you can get the head of the nail to lift just a little, you can use "flush cut" nippers like these to get under the head and lift it out.

    nipperonnail.jpg
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    Thank you again this helps, I will see if I can lift it out carefully ...

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    My roll of Yellow PETG that I ordered last week never showed up, so I reordered and it should be here today.

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    Ian #UKPachinko

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    ... No chance to clean the middle attraction in place properly, but I finally got it out. I could not loosen the nails from the frontside as I found out later, they stuck in a plastic tunnel. That's how it worked: I measured the position of the nails, drilled a short 8mm hole in the backside wood until the tip of the nails was visible. Then I hit the tip of the nails with a hammer and an old drill-bit from the backside until they came out a bit on the frontside. Later I will use two wooden dowel and some glue to cover the holes.

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