Error Code "A." Nishijin Nekketsu Bohkenoh model Y&O

[rubberratt]

I don't know anything about PachiSlots... but never heard anyone talk about dongles for those.

[pachiwall]

#1- One winning slot will activate the reel spin, but that is the only one that works, without issuing prize balls. #2- When you turn on the machine, 7 balls will drop into the bottom catcher, which I believe is normal. #3- Another thing I noticed, is that the winning balls will not be discharged, except for manually resulting in blockage if forgotten to empty.

#1-Only one slot will activate the reels to spin...but it should pay 5 balls. That should be the "Nishijin"...or, start pocket. Always in the middle, always below center. As you are testing, I would always start with dropping a ball in the start pocket. At least when the reels spin...you know the machine registered a ball. Other side pockets, I would expect the "smiling woman & surprised man" pockets to pay 5 balls,...but, no spin when properly working. Even the shark should pay 5 balls (no spin). However, the "Nekketsu" pockets don't look like pockets to me. they look like "passthroughs"...where the ball don't go into a pocket then disappear behind the playfield. they look like a "hoop" that that the ball passes through. there is usually no ball payout. I'm not saying that they do nothing...I just don't know what they do! Therefore, I wouldn't drop a ball through them for testing purposes. I'm not sure if the top pockets payout balls, but I do know they won't spin the reels.
#2- That is not normal! But, when the other problem(s) is/are fixed, that problem could just go away.
#3- I don't know where the winning ball should go. Some vintage machines returned them to the front lower tray. Others sent them to the lost ball bin. Recyclers returned them to the reward hopper! I don't know where early moderns send the winning ball...but I do know that it should not cause a blockage.
I would make sure there are no blockages or ball jams anywhere. Fill hopper with enough balls to fill all tracks. No need to make it full...in case you need to ball dump. Make sure the balls make it all the way to the payout motor. For any kind of payout problem...make sure the balls are reaching the payout motor! When you drop a ball into the start pocket, watch, look and listen to the payout motor to run. If it don't...try touching the payout motor while dropping in the start pocket. see if you can feel a vibration or hear a hum of it trying to work.
Can't hurt to try.

[rubberratt]

Awesome ! good info !

One of the first questions I asked (this was off-line) was ... are there balls going to the payout mech. I think that's the first think to clear up.

[Pneuma]

From what I can tell, the balls are only going halfway down the track. Toward the bottom. Im not sure where the payout motor is, but I'll send pics a bit later of where the balls are stopping. Thank You

[Pneuma]

Sorry. Im sending pics now . Additionally, I don't hear the p pay out motor kicking in at all when mad in any pockets. In the track closest to the back, there is a piece of rubber mounted and an arm which prevents balls from moving down the track. It seems something should trigger it to allow a certain number of balls to fall through. When u power on, balls will fall and a little lever/door, moves allowing balls to go to back hooper rather than where I believe payout motor/area to be16345815522437804366008013640192.jpg16345816015349103559108822663825.jpg16345816590604840281661113454307.jpg16345817097434203264131609349889.jpg16345815522437804366008013640192.jpg16345816015349103559108822663825.jpg16345816590604840281661113454307.jpg16345817097434203264131609349889.jpg

[Pneuma]

Sorry, i need to remember to take any additional pictures with my phone horizontaly. Sorry they are sideways. Can u point me towards the payout motor?

[Pneuma]

Yes, the drop through pockets do not do anything. they are just for show. I do not hear the motor do anything when balls go into pockets you mentioned. I need to locate the payout motor and that would help us get closer to solving my issue. From what i was able to decipher about error code "A"; the wording translates to Accessory board disconnected. I believe we ruled out that it is not dongle related because it fires and works without a dongle due to possible solder bypass

[Pneuma]

Correction. Balls will discharge to bottom when to many in hopper I guess. I just took a video of track on startup. It won't let me upload video, but 2 separate doors move and click on startup

[rubberratt]

See if you can rotate that arm (or lift it) and let the balls through

[Drunkenclam]

I can only see balls flowing down one of the two paths. there looks to be a big rubber lump stopping balls going down the path nearest the back of the machine> Closest to you as you look from the rear.

Try taking that out.

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[Pneuma]

You got it. Will do and will update. I need to find the payout motor and make sure it is connected, because it does not turn on when a ball goes in a winning hole. Any ideas where I'd find it?

[Drunkenclam]

If like other machines it's simple. If both ball paths aren't full. The machine thinks its empty and will not pay out. On some machines. The payout has 2 in feeds and one out. The gear inside is designed to merge both ball feeds. So it knows how far to turn to dispense a payout. If one path is empty. It stops working.

[Pneuma]

So I removed that little piece of rubber obstructing the balls from moving freely. This is where we're at. The balls are being held in upper area from progressing down chute b these little black clips

[Pneuma]

I fixed the black clip issue. Balls will only go to here, which I'm assuming is the payout motor?1634602444790971937507910481899.jpg1634602444790971937507910481899.jpg1634602444790971937507910481899.jpg

[Pneuma]

The error code A is solid instead of flashing now

[Peteybob]

Hello Pneuma and welcome to the group

If my Y&O model is the same as yours then you are close to the payout motor. Pictured below and in the red circles is how it is held in. The top tab swings to the left, the lower lever presses down and out of the way and on the left are two purple tabs to press lightly to the left. With all this the payout assembly should slide out as long as there aren't any balls lodged in the top end. Watch out for any short length wires to get in the way.

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[Pneuma]

Hello Pneuma and welcome to the group

If my Y&O model is the same as yours then you are close to the payout motor. Pictured below and in the red circles is how it is held in. The top tab swings to the left, the lower lever presses down and out of the way and on the left are two purple tabs to press lightly to the left. With all this the payout assembly should slide out as long as there aren't any balls lodged in the top end. Watch out for any short length wires to get in the way.

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I was able to dismount payout motor and it appears in tact. It seems maybe a sensor is not being triggered by the winning balls. But also, the reels will spin but not payout

[Pneuma]

Thank u for the warm welcome. I'm getting error code "a" Which I believe means accessory board disconnected. No payouts or registering of winning balls, except for the one that spins the reels

[Peteybob]

Thank u for the warm welcome. I'm getting error code "a" Which I believe means accessory board disconnected. No payouts or registering of winning balls, except for the one that spins the reels

Another recent member had a similar problem and found a worn part which he made a new replacement part for it. I'm looking for his write up on it for you to compare with yours.

[Pneuma]

I am to the point in considering wedging the door open to the balls will fall to the front to reshhot rather than the back when u release lol