Hi, new user with a Toyotec Burst Angel that won't launch

[KWord]

Hi, I'm new around these parts but have had these three machines for several years. The last 2 years they've been in storage but I've recently set them back up.

I have:
Aqua Paradise by Sankyo
A Burst Angel by Toyotec that is now not working (of course it's my favorite that breaks)
A pachinko that I have not got around to identifying that has an anime girl band theme.


I'm hoping someone will have some insight on my Toyotec Burst Angel that won't launch balls. The launcher doesn't do anything or make any noise but I suspect that it won't attempt to launch balls if there is an error condition elsewhere. At the top right of the machine there is a red light that I think is an error indicator. There is also a led on the back that says 'E'. The LED initially says 'F' on power on but immediately changes to 'E' I'm hoping the light has some specific meaning to it other than error. It has balls in the hopper and pays out if I drop a ball in one of the winning slots. There are also 3 other indicator lights on the front that are off. Two on the top left of unknown color and a blue one on the top right, that one seems to be the hopper empty light. All connectors seem to be well seated but I haven't checked the ones behind the plastic yet.

Here is the front and back of the Burst Angel
BurstAngel.jpg

BurstAngelTop.jpg
BurstAngelBack.jpg

And my other two
Aqua Paradise
AquaParidise.jpg

I haven't taken the time to ID this one yet.
AnimeBand.jpg

I greatly appreciate any assistance with the Burst Angel and have learned a lot I didn't know just by browsing.

Thanks,
Kevin

Sorry if some of the images are sideways, they are correct in the editor but not the preview.

[MrGneiss]

WELCOME!!!

I think I will move your post to to the Pachinko section so more people will see it!!


Have you tried swapping dongles from one of your other machines to see if that helps with the shooter??


And don't worry about sideways pictures, the forum has a mind of its own when it comes to picture orientation!!

[KWord]

Thank you for the great suggestion of swapping the dongles. Unfortunately that didn't work. Should every dongle work on every machine or are some incompatible with each other? Interestingly the error lights stay the same with the swapped dongle and also without any dongle at all. I wonder if this could mean it's a problem elsewhere in the assembly the dongle plugs into.

Thanks

[Peteybob]

Hello Kevin and welcome to the group

I don't have any of these games or frames but others will be along later and thru the week. Wanted to say HI

[daverob]

There's a white sticker on the back that has all the error codes on it, but the pictures a bit too fuzzy for me to read all of it. It looks like the 'E' code is the second from bottom and the Japanese text beside it says something about 'card unit', so it's still likely to be related to the dongle. If the dongle swap made no difference, the next step is checking that power is getting to the dongle. There should be a 1A fuse somewhere near the dongle that may have blown or come loose from it's clips. (I'm not sure exactly where the fuses are on this machine).

Your unidentified machine is 'Pretty Band' by Heiwa from 2004, one of my favourite machines from that era!

[KWord]

Thank you, Google Translate says the error code is "Card unit not connected"

I've found 3 fuses so far but none are particularly close to the dongle. When I try to remove the fuses to inspect them they all only turn about 1/8 of a rotation. Pulling on them after turning on them doesn't release them. Do fuses on pachinkos normally turn more than 1/8 of a rotation or are they just stubborn to pull out?

Thank you

Here are closeups of the codes and dongle area.

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[daverob]

Fuse holders can either unscrew, or open with a bayonet 1/4 turn rotation. Sometimes you need to push in to complete the rotation before the fuse holder will pull out. You are likely to find fuses in the range of around 8A to 15A for the main game fuses, and a T1A fuse (usually a 5x20mm size) for the card reader interface.

[KWord]

Thanks for all the help. I think it might just be a fuse, I found one that looks like it might be bad and when I turn on the machine with it removed it acts completely the same. Once I get the replacement I'll let you know if it worked.

[takethecastle57]

[Drunkenclam]

When you swapped dongles. Did you try the original from this machine in another machine as well as just trying a different one in this machine.


Oh and the other machine is CR Pretty Band bt Heiwa.


https://youtu.be/hR4gAQvnMmk

[KWord]

If the new fuse doesn't work then I'll try the dongle in a working machine.

Thanks for the warm welcome to those that identified my unknown machine.

[Moparformances]

Welcome to Pachitalk

[KWord]

NewFfse didn't work and now things have gone from bad to worse. I tried the dongle from the Burst Angel in my other 2 pachinkos and now both of them have the same issue even with their original dongles in place. I wasn't going to try the Burst Angel dongle in the Pretty Band but at some point in all the swapping I must have grabbed the wrong one. Can a bad dongle damage the card reader assembly? Or is there some sort of reset procedure I need to do after swapping.

[KWord]

Success! At least some success. Burst Angel launcher is working but other 2 are not. I think I have a bad dongle that is causing the fuse to blow immediately. When I put a new fuse in and a known good dongle the Burst Angel started working. So I guess I'll buy 2 new dongles for the other machines since I lost track of which one is good and they look identical. Unable to find the location of the fuse for the card reader on the other machines so far though but I have high hopes that I'll find them once I get the new dongles.

Edit: Forgot to ask, where's a good place to get dongles and are they universal or do I need to get something specific?

Thanks

[Spyder138]

Edit: Forgot to ask, where's a good place to get dongles and are they universal or do I need to get something specific? Thanks

I would recommend a DaveRob dongle so that you can use the ball loan buttons on your machine to replenish your front tray when it is empty. Add a ball lifter to your setup and you are really in business, playing just like in a parlor without having to shuffle balls around.

[daverob]

A bad dongle will usually just blow the 1A fuse. Sometimes the components on the dongle get pushed around and their wires touch other pins on the D-25 connector. If the metal of the component leads touch any other pins than the ones they are soldered to, then this can cause a short circuit and the fuse will blow.

Looking at the picture of the dongle you posted earlier in this thread, the resistor leads do look like they are shorting out on several pins (sorry, I didn't look at that picture closely when you posted it, if I had I would probably have spotted it earlier and you might have not blown more fuses). If you pull the resistor body away from the connector and straighten up the leads a bit so that they are not shorting on the other pins, it will probably work fine again.

[Peteybob]

Success! At least some success. Burst Angel launcher is working but other 2 are not. I think I have a bad dongle that is causing the fuse to blow immediately. When I put a new fuse in and a known good dongle the Burst Angel started working. So I guess I'll buy 2 new dongles for the other machines since I lost track of which one is good and they look identical. Unable to find the location of the fuse for the card reader on the other machines so far though but I have high hopes that I'll find them once I get the new dongles.

Edit: Forgot to ask, where's a good place to get dongles and are they universal or do I need to get something specific?

Thanks

I'd give you a couple dongles for a few bucks plus USPS shipping costs. These would be tested ones from my current machines.
Pete

[Moparformances]

I would recommend a DaveRob dongle so that you can use the ball loan buttons on your machine to replenish your front tray when it is empty. Add a ball lifter to your setup and you are really in business, playing just like in a parlor without having to shuffle balls around.

[KWord]

Thanks to everyone for the great support with this issue, I'll take a close look at that dongle and see if it's shorting and if I can bend it back in to place.

[KWord]

Great success! Yes, one of the resistors on the dongle was bent so it was shorting. After bending it back the dongle is working again. Thanks to the excellent Victory manual I found that fuse easily. The Pretty Band fuse was harder to find but I finally found it and all three machines are launching again.

Thanks to all for the great support and warm welcome.