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    Default Understanding payout rates - Pachislo

    My Way 2 Pulsar is supposed to have the following payout settings:
    1. 95%
    2. 97%
    3. 99%
    4. 102%
    5. 104%
    6. 106%


    How do I read those numbers?
    I would understand it if 99% means that 99% of the tokens that are being used for playing are being payed out again.

    But what does 102/104/106% do? Can I keep on playing (on average) just from the coins that the machine is spitting out?
    That seems a bit weird, doesn't it?

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    Default Re: Understanding payout rates - Pachislo

    It's in your favor on 6. On Average every 100 tokens through will produce 106. However that being said, you still can easily find all your tokens in the hopper in an hour. Play it for a year straight and should see a profit of 6%. One other thing, i doubt you can tell the difference in any setting in 1000 spins.

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    Default Re: Understanding payout rates - Pachislo

    Quote Originally Posted by rockston View Post
    It's in your favor on 6.
    In my favour as the player, that is? Not as the owner of the device?

    Why would they do that?
    Or is it because you win a cuddly bear instead of money in the Pachinko halls, and they are worth much less than the amount payed for the tokens?

    Normally the owner of a Pachinko hall (with Pachislo machines as well) will only make money if the machines take more than they give.
    The machine have to make a profit within 2 years, because they need to be replaced after that, and that includes additional costs like the building, energy and staff.
    I just don't get it why 3 of the 6 modes are in favour of the player.

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    Default Re: Understanding payout rates - Pachislo

    They could potentially scatter a few machines around with positive paybacks if they wish and still clean up on the vast majority. However, I have no idea if they do that or not. Don't worry, they clean up all right.

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    Default Re: Understanding payout rates - Pachislo

    Plus balls/tokens cost more to rent than you get trading them in!!

    "Blowing smoke rings at the moon."

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    Default Re: Understanding payout rates - Pachislo

    Coins/balls cost more to rent at some places but not others. Some places have equal rates.

    It's as simple as it sounds; the machines can be set to over 100% payout. In theory..... In practice, it's a whole other thing. Some of the different features that need to be unlocked for the big returns are so small in probability, and the main changes to the payout percentage will be reflected in the odds of the smaller bonuses landing.

    So what's a parlour to do with all these machines? Well, stick most of them on setting 1 of course. Scatter a few higher setting ones about *on select days, and then change them back to 1 the next day* and get people through the door. Some may indeed pay big and that customer will come back. The other side of it is like me, when I sat at a Setting 6 Hades for eight hours and lost around 2,500 coins on it. This wasn't in a parlour, but if it was then I'd have lost 50,000 yen. You could also hit well on a setting 1 for all we know. The amount of time the machines have to bed in to their setting is negligible, and they will get reset every few days.
    Your man on the Pachi Frontline.

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    Default Re: Understanding payout rates - Pachislo

    Thanks all for these clarifications; they seem to make sense!

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