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    I acquired a Sanyo Comet II some years ago as a 3 machine package deal in order to get a PowerFlash. Nothing particularly wrong with the Comet II, other than the wiring chopped off...and the fact that it is a Comet II ! It was tested 5 years ago when bought. Nothing about it is exceptional...except maybe the chrome.
    So the "flipper and knob" thread got me looking at my Sanyo electric shooter conversion kit. Now I'm looking for a suitable machine to fit it to. I think I found the one. Not only is the shooter kit Sanyo...the (faded) color almost matches the color of the back plastics!20201016_223729.jpg

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    ooooooooooooh interesting

    ill be watching this
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    Probably not gonna start right away. Too many other "emergencies" first. But...I can't see myself holding out too long. Just looking at the box of parts next to the machine makes me want to start now.

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    First of all, do all Comet II rear mechanisms come off simply with 6 thumbscrews? That is pretty cool.
    Next mount the ...trip dog?
    Then, I wanted to verify direction of rotation...as the trip dog will need to be bent to engage properly. So without thinking, I poked the bare wires into 120 volts! The motor rotated at the normal speed...but, smoke came out and that sad familiar smell! 20201017_205651.jpg

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    bummer
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    I'm gonna go ahead with mounting the parts. The burned up motorneeds some wood cut to make a solid mount. Possibly need another small pulley. All the pics of ones with all parts intact...all seem to have 2 pulleys. Clearly the front can't open from the frame after converting...so, securing front to frame would be recommended. Just mocking up the pieces...there seems to be NO room for a ball catcher! Therefore, some remote catch system (funnel and hose) needed.
    On Monday, I'm going to take it to Dayton Quality Starter. They rebuild starters and alternators. I used to work at the auto parts store across the street from them, and often asked them technical questions. Also sent customers who wanted their original starter as opposed to a remanufactured one.
    When I was a kid...taking apart everything I could find a screwdriver for...I used to see motors like this all the time! Even with the wrong voltage the correct transformer fixes that!

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    Got pretty warm...in about 2 seconds.20201018_215754.jpg20201018_220452.jpg

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    81119 or maybe S1119

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    The little gear attached to the armature spins nicely. I think all the damage is in the primary coil windings. I'm taking it to a starter/alternator remanufacturer tomorrow. They should be able to do it...or offer me advice on how to do it myself.20201018_220707.jpg20201018_220720.jpg

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    Nothing complicated. Probably easier to make at home than a ball lifter!

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    Default Re: My poor unloved Comet II

    its interesting you have two transformers.. i'm not electrician but could they be using one, to step down to () 24 volts then the other to step down to 6 volts..

    when you hit it with 120 you let the magic smoke out..
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    Default Re: My poor unloved Comet II

    Might be hard to find a dual secondary transformer with unbalanced outputs. I did a fast check on Newark Electronics site and only saw mirrored outputs. Somebody might make a 24/6 vac dual output, but it might have to be a custom made one. It would be more work, but I suppose you could use one 24vac output to feed a voltage regulator circuit that rectifies and limits the output to 6vdc.
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    I'm no electrician, but know some basics. I don't know about 2 transformers. The transformer steps down 12ovac to 25.2v...does not state ac or dc. The 24v then goes to the primary windings of the motor. As I understand it...the primary windings around the iron core create an electromagnet out of the iron core. As you can see, there are no permanant magnets in this motor. I suspect the windings in the armature are fine...just the electromagnet windings.
    Does any of this make sense?

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    I'm no electrician, but know some basics. I don't know about 2 transformers. The transformer steps down 12ovac to 25.2v...does not state ac or dc. The 24v then goes to the primary windings of the motor. As I understand it...the primary windings around the iron core create an electromagnet out of the iron core. As you can see, there are no permanant magnets in this motor. I suspect the windings in the armature are fine...just the electromagnet windings.
    Does any of this make sense?

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