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    Default Vintage Sankyo - Thinking '75-ish

    Hello all.

    I've lurked on and off over years. First post.

    I picked up this machine years ago, but it didn't have any of the balls and I tucked it away in the corner. Its now moved twice with me, and I was cleaning the garage the other day and decided to take another peek at it.

    Based on the expiration sticker (51-9), I'm thinking its a 1975 model. I tried looking for the model from the list referenced here (https://www.sankyo-fever.jp/history/...?tag=1966#1979), but the 1975 models don't have any pictures and I'm not sure how well Google Translate handled the descriptions. Between the translated descriptions and play field I have in front of me, they don't seem to match.

    Other than being very dusty and in need of a deep clean, it looks pretty intact. The play field doesn't show much wear and the mechanics in the back seem to be intact with the exception of the linkage for the payoff bar (circled in yellow) ??? Any insights?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Default Re: Vintage Sankyo - Thinking '75-ish

    When things don't go right the 1st time , Step back ,Take a break and come back renewed. RGS

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    Default Re: Vintage Sankyo - Thinking '75-ish

    can you provide a better pic of the area in yellow..

    based on the pics it look like a mostly complete machine.. hopefully you should be able to add balls and play

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    Thank you both for the welcome.

    As requested, here is a close-up of the broken part. Without knowing the terminology of the various parts yet, is this something I could source for a replacement, or should I just try winging it with a 3d printed solution or perhaps even glue/epoxy?

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    it looks like the over flow shut off lever is broken..

    vintage machines have a mech that will push the ball load lever over so the shooter can not inter act with it.. (it would be like the shooter is at full pull)

    if the player is winning allot the top tray fills once it is full balls are redirected to the bottom tray.. if the bottom tray fills up into the machine there is a plunger inside the over flow tube.. that plunger will eventually push the ball load lever over and keep the machine from loading balls to the shooter.. all the play had to do is remove balls from the lower tray and the plunger will swing back allowing the shooter to work..

    this broken part is kinda common and really not a big deal to be broken cause most home machines don't have enough balls or get played enough for the lower tray to get backed up inside a machine..

    hope that makes sense

    if not see the vid below at 3:18 mins (about middle of the video)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moparformances View Post
    it looks like the over flow shut off lever is broken..

    vintage machines have a mech that will push the ball load lever over so the shooter can not inter act with it.. (it would be like the shooter is at full pull)

    if the player is winning allot the top tray fills once it is full balls are redirected to the bottom tray.. if the bottom tray fills up into the machine there is a plunger inside the over flow tube.. that plunger will eventually push the ball load lever over and keep the machine from loading balls to the shooter.. all the play had to do is remove balls from the lower tray and the plunger will swing back allowing the shooter to work..

    this broken part is kinda common and really not a big deal to be broken cause most home machines don't have enough balls or get played enough for the lower tray to get backed up inside a machine..

    hope that makes sense

    if not see the vid below at 3:18 mins (about middle of the video)

    https://www.pachitalk.com/forums/sho...-Model-B-Video
    Interesting!

    Glad to know that its not a fatal condition. Guess I just need to get the courage to clean it up and give it some use!

    Thanks you

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    Interesting!

    Thank you very much for the explanation and the video link. That helped.

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    So, I found that I'm missing at least one part.

    From the pictures originally posted, of the back of the machine, there is a little white "hockey stick" hanging down from the first ball track. Based on a restoration video and recent eBay listing, it seemsnto be missing a counterweight unit.

    Is there any place I can source a replacement? And if I can find one, how do I determine the applicable balance point?

    Thanks again

    What happens if I cannot find this piece?

    Also,

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    If I understand you correctly, those hockey sticks lock out the machine from paying jackpots if the ball supply gets too low.

    In the bottom of the ball tracks are flaps that move the hockey sticks. Balls present will lift the sticks allowing the jackpot linkage to rise, activating a payout. With no balls in the track in question, the sticks drop, blocking the jackpot mechanism. You can move these by hand to see what I'm trying to explain.

    Check ebay for pachinko parts. You could also make one using the existing hockey stick as a template.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aiyou View Post
    So, I found that I'm missing at least one part.

    From the pictures originally posted, of the back of the machine, there is a little white "hockey stick" hanging down from the first ball track. Based on a restoration video and recent eBay listing, it seemsnto be missing a counterweight unit.

    Is there any place I can source a replacement? And if I can find one, how do I determine the applicable balance point?

    Thanks again

    What happens if I cannot find this piece?

    Also,
    pic of missing part.. please
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    Sorry for the delayed response - picture attached.

    Having stared at this a bit more, I'm thinking that this would trigger the low balls/out of balls light when the available balls in this tray progress past the white lever piece and the missing weight would release pressure on the switch, triggering the light.

    Given that, its probably not a showstopper, but is there a source where I can find a replacement, or perhaps specs on making my own? I've tried eBay already and didn't find anything that looked like it would be a match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiyou View Post
    Sorry for the delayed response - picture attached.

    Having stared at this a bit more, I'm thinking that this would trigger the low balls/out of balls light when the available balls in this tray progress past the white lever piece and the missing weight would release pressure on the switch, triggering the light.

    Given that, its probably not a showstopper, but is there a source where I can find a replacement, or perhaps specs on making my own? I've tried eBay already and didn't find anything that looked like it would be a match.
    IMG_20200728_190702753_LIa.jpg
    i have used a spring to lift it up.. it needs to be a soft spring..
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    Default Re: Vintage Sankyo - Thinking '75-ish

    You are correct about the broken/missing piece triggering the low/out of balls switch/light. You can possibly make a linkage out of stiff wire that can duplicate its function. It doesn't necessarily have to be an exact duplicate physically.

    The hockey sticks I spoke of in my previous reply are further down the ball track.

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