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    Default Arrange ball planes and info (Please help me!)

    Hi all pachitalk comunity. I introduce myself. My name is Ángel and i'm a professional game programmer for more than 5 years. I have been very interested in pachinkos until i see Arrangeball games and got loving it's mechanics and all machines i have seen. I have been reading the last weeks all the info contained in this comunity looking for two things, arrangeball player guides and any type of arrangeball measures planes.

    I have luck with first one, i can understand main game types in the arrangeball circle.

    But i have no luck searching for planes to make accurate simulators (The most information i have seen is pointing here) (for Android and IOS mainly).

    Then i asking for your help to do it. I would like to have from arrange ball sizes , to every machine front plane (i don't need back part ones you can understand it ).
    This information is not going to be important for me only, but for everyone who want to make a real one for theirselfs to continue what makers are not going to do anymore.

    To be more accurate in my request i would like to know this for each game (Satomi miracle,taiyo electron,Jan ball,...)(cm or inch):
    - Game name
    - Cabinet measures (screen square size, distances between curve paths of the ball with the cabinet)
    - Ball size
    - Pin size (thin part and fat part) (if you can measure it)

    - Instructions (if you have them better, but this is for a plus help)
    - Pin positions (if you want to help me to recreate any machine)

    In gratitude for your help i could put your name or web in credits of the game or whatever you want (what i could do).

    Thanks in advance to this really great comunity.

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    Welcome Aboard


    I don't have an arrange ball myself. Or any plans, But some genernic infomation.

    Balls are 11mm weighing 5.5g
    Common normal cabinet/frame size for most is 809mm high, 520mm wide.

    I'm sure theh Arrangeball Guru will be along soon

    Ian #UKPachinko

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    play fields are the same basic size as any pachinko machine from that era...

    balls and nails are the same as still used today

    names of machine are for the most part a guess... some have proper names but most are given nams by the owners

    pleanty of pictures hear

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    Hello

    Welcome to PachiTalk


    I have one arrange ball machine and it is a little different to the usual ones as it has a large amount of relays inside and a circular matrix on the front,


    I can accurately give it's name and date as it was logged on Fuji's website as follows:

    Manufacturer: Fuji
    Pachinko Name: Pai Pai Gemu (Pai Pai Game)
    Year: 1973
    Type: Arrange Ball


    The theme of this game is 'Mahjong' it features Mahjong tiles.


    The cabinet itself measures approx. 52.5cm wide by 80.5cm long

    The visible glass part of the front measures approx. 39cm wide by 28.5cm long

    There are more pics in the thread (post 58 onwards)
    http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/arra...tml#post394655

    ebay pic mahjong pachinko 1.JPGmahjong front part.jpgmahjong silver winning lines rules sml.JPG


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    Got my micro meter out for the pins,
    Shaft is 1.8mm
    Head is 4.18mm
    Distance from top of head to playing field 17.3mm
    Distance from under of head to playing field 16.72mm
    Ian #UKPachinko

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    same thing happened to me. i was interested in pachinkos and owned a few and then found an arrangeball. i sold my pachinkos and only collect arrangeballs now. if you go to my profile you can find some basic info about each machine. most of their names are translated so i'm assuming they're correct. there's not much history known about these machines as they are rare and were made for 8-10 years. later on similar machines started to be made that had also 16 pockets at the bottom but paid out in balls like a typical pachinko. these are called "arepachi" machines although some still incorrectly in my opinion call arrangeballs/challengeballs by this name as well.
    the game play is pretty much the same no matter the machine and the main differences are the addition of bonus modes on later models. later ones had sound effects and more lights on the playfield.
    the above posts do a good job of answering your questions but let me know if you have any more questions or want specific info on any of my machines and pictures.
    EM Pinballs & Arrangeballs

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    if you haven't already read it, i wrote a sticky about basic arrangeball info in this forum.
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    First to all thanks for your answers , its nice to talk with people who have the same feelings about this "game"

    Quote Originally Posted by emmadog View Post
    if you haven't already read it, i wrote a sticky about basic arrangeball info in this forum.
    I have read it and it helps me a lot with mechanics. It resolves all my dudes about trying to make an arrangeball game

    Quote Originally Posted by emmadog View Post
    same thing happened to me. i was interested in pachinkos and owned a few and then found an arrangeball. i sold my pachinkos and only collect arrangeballs now. if you go to my profile you can find some basic info about each machine. most of their names are translated so i'm assuming they're correct. there's not much history known about these machines as they are rare and were made for 8-10 years. later on similar machines started to be made that had also 16 pockets at the bottom but paid out in balls like a typical pachinko. these are called "arepachi" machines although some still incorrectly in my opinion call arrangeballs/challengeballs by this name as well.
    the game play is pretty much the same no matter the machine and the main differences are the addition of bonus modes on later models. later ones had sound effects and more lights on the playfield.
    the above posts do a good job of answering your questions but let me know if you have any more questions or want specific info on any of my machines and pictures.
    I know and i have seen some that also they use also 16 balls but they don't have the bottom pockets like one with baseball theme. It has many submechanics but the end like you said is the same.

    Be sure i will ask you to help me with some details Drunkenclam.

    Quote Originally Posted by emmadog View Post
    if you haven't already read it, i wrote a sticky about basic arrangeball info in this forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenclam View Post
    Got my micro meter out for the pins,
    Shaft is 1.8mm
    Head is 4.18mm
    Distance from top of head to playing field 17.3mm
    Distance from under of head to playing field 16.72mm
    Drunkenclam Be sure i got in love with your micro meter for pins and ball size thank you for it.

    What do you mean when saying

    "Distance from under of head to playing field 16.72mm"

    I'm spanish and i don't understand all things, sorry for that. What game were you measuring for me? Thanks in advance another time

    Quote Originally Posted by hanabi View Post
    Hello

    Welcome to PachiTalk


    I have one arrange ball machine and it is a little different to the usual ones as it has a large amount of relays inside and a circular matrix on the front,


    I can accurately give it's name and date as it was logged on Fuji's website as follows:

    Manufacturer: Fuji
    Pachinko Name: Pai Pai Gemu (Pai Pai Game)
    Year: 1973
    Type: Arrange Ball


    The theme of this game is 'Mahjong' it features Mahjong tiles.


    The cabinet itself measures approx. 52.5cm wide by 80.5cm long

    The visible glass part of the front measures approx. 39cm wide by 28.5cm long

    There are more pics in the thread (post 58 onwards)
    http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/arra...tml#post394655

    ebay pic mahjong pachinko 1.JPGmahjong front part.jpgmahjong silver winning lines rules sml.JPG


    Thanks for your answer because i hadn't seen the mecanic of this game. This is the most enjoyable arrangeball mechanics i have seen since i have been reading here.

    Thanks for all the info. I will ask you individually in order to replicate some of the games. But this thread is not death , all extra info it's going to be wellcome and would be more than appreciated.

    P.S: (Sorry for my bad English, I'm from Spain)

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    mod:

    Be sure i will ask you to help me with some details
    emmadog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelus View Post
    mod:

    Be sure i will ask you to help me with some details
    emmadog.
    sure, ask all the questions you want. No other vintage offers the level of fun and engagement as arrangeballs.
    here's a YouTube link to a machine I used to own. click on my name and there's other videos of arrangeballs I've owned.
    Taiyo Electron Challenge Ball - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelus View Post
    Drunkenclam Be sure i got in love with your micro meter for pins and ball size thank you for it.

    What do you mean when saying

    "Distance from under of head to playing field 16.72mm"
    What game were you measuring for me? Thanks in advance another time


    Perhaps a better description would be the length of the shaft, This is taken from a modern machine I've got on the bench thats having a clean up.
    Ian #UKPachinko

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    Thanks for the info Drunkenclam. I will be doing some research about.

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