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    Default A Home Pachinko Cabinet System

    Now that I have 4 pachinko machines (at least I will come Christmas), I'm starting to put serious thought on how to display them, and automate ball return to the payout hoppers, especially on the fever machines.

    My idea is for an expandable cabinet system where several machines can share ball-lifting infrastructure, and possibly, dedicated 24VAC power.

    I have been spending the past week planning the cabinet details out in Blender 3D, with input from a friend more experienced in woodworking. It is still a work-in-progress, with the most attention still needed in the ball handling system.

    Here is a concept rendering of what this would look like:
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    To flow the balls from one cabinet to the next to/from the ball lifter, a ramp would start at one cabinet and would slope gently downhill through each successive cabinet. The current cabinet design will accommodate up to 12 machines, 6 on each side of a shared ball-lifter module. (Probably the design can be modified to accommodate more, but after 24 linear feet of pachinkos, you'd probably want an aisle break anyway in a home, no?

    To ensure gravity can do its job properly, and account for the inexact nature of wood and warps, the cabinets would have furniture levelers, which they should have anyway to keep the pachinko itself level . I've run simulated tests of my ramp designs for both the ball return and ball feed in a game engine, and they both seem to work well.

    Here's a couple of questions I have to start out:

    If I want to wire the cabinets with 24VAC, where would I find the hardware to do that? I understand that modern pachinkos have significant 24v power needs. For instance my "CR Galaxy Railways" is rated at 200VA, which is roughly 8.3A. I've found power supplies for closed circuit TV equipment and such, but those seem to top out at 3.5A per output, and 600VA overall. Where can I find equipment to handle power for 6-12 modern pachinkos at 200VA each?

    My understanding of ball lifter systems is that the biggest challenge is preventing clogs of silverball. Has anyone experimented with using the guts of an unsalvageable pachinko to handle this problem? It seems to me the top part of the payout tract would be perfect for funnelling down to a single stream of balls without clogs.

    I plan to share all plans on this forum publicly once I make a few more revisions. For now though, my wife really wants to see the new Thor movie, so gotta go!

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    Well after a hard night out partying for my brothers 40th birthday. This might not make sense

    Parlour machine power.
    From reading machine frame manuals and what's being sold by parlour recyclers. They use multiply 100v to 24v transformers rated at 500va or 1000va (1kva) to run either 2 or 4 machines. Although if you go to a good electrical shop you can buy transformers rated at 2kva and higher. (8 machines or more) Although one of our resident experts once advised me against doing so as during low power consumption, you can get raised voltage levels. The data counters all have their own 24v supply per aisle and not shared with the machine supply.

    As you say. The hardest part is getting balls to flow smoothly. You have 3 different ways of storing balls. Above or below the machine in a huge tank. Or both above and below. Storing above is easier on a lifter as it can keep plodding along whilst balls drain into the top of a machine. Below is safer as you don't have a huge weight sitting above the machines 7ft in the air. But if you have multiply machines hitting fever at the same time. Your going to need a fast ball lifter to keep up. One down side of a tank above the machines is to isolate the balls when you need to access the machine. Do it wrong and you get 20,000 balls falling on your head. Using old rear top tanks should help to channel the balls into individual streams to feed each machine in turn. It's getting the tanks and the first section of tank rail that may take a while (In the UK anyway)
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    Default Re: A Home Pachinko Cabinet System

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenclam View Post
    One down side of a tank above the machines is to isolate the balls when you need to access the machine. Do it wrong and you get 20,000 balls falling on your head.
    Lol, I had thought of that. I am planning on using storage above, mainly to reduce capacity needs of a ball lifter. I'm hoping a spring-loaded trap door actuated by the pachinko frame will do the trick.

    Thanks for all the great info on the power systems. Still not sure if I want to mess around there, but more motivated to after learning that the conversion kit transformer on my "CR Galaxy Railways" is being seriously overloaded! (Machine rated at 200VA, transformer at 125VA)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenclam View Post
    Using old rear top tanks should help to channel the balls into individual streams to feed each machine in turn. It's getting the tanks and the first section of tank rail that may take a while (In the UK anyway)
    I'm not sure what you mean by "old rear top tanks"...are you referring to some type of ball storage tank from a parlor?

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    The frame manuals call the rear payout hopper on the back of the machine tanks. So I continue to do so too
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    Last edited by Drunkenclam; 11-10-2013 at 06:49 AM.
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    Default Re: A Home Pachinko Cabinet System

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenclam View Post
    Although if I can find some of these. I'd prefer them
    Agreed, however since I am releasing these plans for general use, I'd like to keep the base specs using more easily acquired parts, like 1970's Nishijin or Sankyo tanks. Of course, those with the skills to navigate the labyrinthine system of getting these parts from Japan would be free to respec their rigs.

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    In the pachinko baron lands of the UK. We don't have that luxury
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenclam View Post
    Those are the "shoot" shown on this page. They attach to the Supply Gutter, come in lefts and rights (both sides of gutter), used for double sided aisle or extra feeds for ball loaners. Better would be the "Cross cutting base (supply vessel)", automatic cutoff when machine is opened. Something homemade shouldn't be too difficult.

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    Yes. I have 5 of those already . Just need something to make the balls go single file into each machine. So was thinking about putting the shoots in to the gutter then a small length of hose to the supply vessel.
    The switches on mine are rewired to prevent the lifter from working if any machine is open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenclam View Post
    In the pachinko baron lands of the UK. We don't have that luxury
    Yes, across the pond here in the States, we are fortunate that pachinko machines were imported by the boatload in the '70s.

    At any rate, I'm making the ball-feed mostly independent of the cabinet structure itself, so any adopters will really be free to use whatever is available. The only ball-moving parts that are integrated into the structure are the ball return ramps to the lower tank the lifter will work from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenclam View Post
    The frame manuals call the rear payout hopper on the back of the machine tanks. So I continue to do so too
    It seems to me that a "tank", or upper ball hopper, is very small when talking about a ball handling system. How they can be used to feed multiple machines intrigues me! They are considered too small for ONE machine...that is why we build cabinets with extended ball hoppers on top. Am I missing something...I feel lost.

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    I think it's more of a way to get a large quantity of balls to go from a heap to single file run of balls. Build your large storage vessel with 3,4 etc rear ball located at the bottom. Then the balls will flow nicely to each machine. In theory.
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