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    Default my continuing saga of buying too many vintage machines

    so I bought a few machines and then I got sick. I couldn't do anything for about two weeks other than post less than helpful things around here.

    Then I picked up another one but did not want to start a thread on it til I got the older ones up. Leading to now and me giving up and just lumping everything into one thread posting them all sooner or later.

    First up is this Maruhan. It has a very cool "rock paper scissors" thing going on. the arm in the center is broken, I will need to get it running again to see if I will need to do something about it or not. I will need to make some covers to replace missing bits on the back and I need to replace the payout, it was forced and the flapper that hold balls in is missing. I have a few of different styles so I am sure one will work. Great color and a well built machine, should be great when it is none.



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    Next up is one seen in another post I am to lazy to find. It is a 73 Nishijin "B" in a vintage custom stand for $50. sorta plain but all the parts are there (but for some covers (so I thought)).

    Got it home, got it inside, took the machine out of the stand. I have decided due to the water staining and the fact I have 2 other "B"s that were missing parts I decided to scavenge from this one to get them almost complete and make this one cyclic and put it back in the stand. I made the mods and made my poll... I went to test my mods and balls would not load right... I open the door and feel stupid, it is missing parts from the feed system and at this point I have another "B" (will have pics of it too) that needs bits from the door and launcher too so this one is now being parted out. I am okay with it as buying just one of the parts I used from it would have cost me $35 and top hoppers are worth parting out a machine for sometimes by it's self. I think at this point I have playfield bits to fix every buggy part on all my other machines now too.



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    I am super happy with this one, It is a model a in untouched condition, not sure on when it was made as the sticker was scratched out but the code on the cell is "L-F". it is not very dirty at all and other than the discoloring on the lower tray that should clean off it is perfect. no rust anywhere and the few balls stuck in it looked good enough to go in my tubs. Every bit is here, I don't think I have ever seen one with all the covers and guards on it.

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    the water staining is minor and is not as bad looking with the eye. Here are pics of the importers box that came with it. The date on the box leads me to think the machine is a 70 or a 71.

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    now the two I got for $50 last week. First is a Sankyo. frame was badly damaged, missing reward tray and plexi. I had decided to mount the sankyo I had made cyclic and after parting out the other machine I had planned to use I figured this one would work, until I found out the frame was almost a half inch too wide. so I did what I needed to make the machine fit in the Nishijin frame, it can't open but it fits in the cab now (pics of that later) and it has cool fast cars on the cell!

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    The other machine is a 75 Nishijin "Monkey and alligator" It was missing some covers but I had them in the parts pile. It needs to be rewired and the monkey needs two balls to go down and a poke to go up so I have some work to do but it is a perfect machine.

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    last here are pics of the parts machine at the moment

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    The one I got today is a 73 I would assume from the tray and cell surrounds but this is the first yellow lens I have ever seen in this spot

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    They are always red that I remember. Real cool pockets and a vintage for when it was made center feature.

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    bad water staining but the chrome is great and it is all there but for the rear ball track cover. ( I am short two of those) I may swap the see-saw cover to the monkey but this one dose have the cool clear back side

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    Here is the current state of the vintage cab. I have the (still needs some cleaning) Sankyo with the modded frame in one side that will dump played balls into the cubby on the cab and my cyclic Sankyo in the other side. I still need to put the bits on the back of the parlor ready machine. To service the insides I have removed the lock and the springs from the latch on the cyclic machine so it can be opened. Then it is easy to do anything inside. I also still need to replace the missing lower panal on the stand and fix the trim but at least it is standing.

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    Great aditions to your collection! Maybe you need to put a little lube on your monkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pachinkojeff View Post
    Maybe you need to put a little lube on your monkey.
    OK. That one earned you a
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    I know there are threads about people fixing this model, I just need to search. At least the string is not broken, it seems that was troublesome to fix
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    I have restored two Monkey and Alligator machines. You must fully disassemble the entire center feature and clean/polish the cams, pully & pivot points to get it to work correctly. There is a string and weights that balance and move the monkey up and down, and when the pivot points are perfectly clean it works as designed. Also, you need to play with the tension on the string so that it is not too loose or tight.

    I tried to take short-cuts on the first one I did and wouldn't work consistently until I made the full cleaning effort.



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    so getting it off the machine is the hardest part
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    No. That was the easy part - four brass nails and two screws. The most difficult part is getting the string tension set correctly. There is a lot of trial and error with that step, but it is the last step before you put it back together.

    Something I forgot to mention in my previous post is that you will need to polish the clear plastic piece that the monkey and string ends attach to, but do not disconnect the strings - you may never get them connected in the right place again!! I used Q-Tips and GelGloss to gently polish it in place so that it would "glide" in the slot without much friction. When the monkey catches a ball, the weight of the ball causes the clear plastic piece to bind in the slot a bit, which creates friction. The GelGloss leaves a coating on the plastic that lubricates it so that there isn't any friction.
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    Owen will have to play with his monkey
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    Just don't spank your monkey owen
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    Quote Originally Posted by owennewton View Post
    The one I got today is a 73 I would assume from the tray and cell surrounds but this is the first yellow lens I have ever seen in this spot



    They are always red that I remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owennewton View Post
    The one I got today is a 73 I would assume from the tray and cell surrounds but this is the first yellow lens I have ever seen in this spot


    They are always red that I remember.
    I have seen them on a few machines I own. I know my rolling stone machines have them. I also think all (might be most) that have the green star center feature have them.

    Nice additions to your collection owen. (So how many do you have total now )

    100 machines and counting...

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    Including not all there but working and not counting ones that have been parted out I am at 40 now. I have been working on designs in my head (on my way out for some drafting paper) but I think I can fit up to 40 vintage in the front room and have a plan for an island with 8 modern machines fed with a central ball lifter
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    That's a huge collection owen,you are truly an avid collector. Well done
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    Got my skimpy little 16 machine collection beat!

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