Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 50

Thread: Battle counter help

  1. #1
    Super Turtle BigBearSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Bearadise
    Posts
    4,114
    Thanks
    3,494
    Thanks Received
    6,664

    Default Battle counter help

    I've got a load of Daiichi battle counters and I need help finding the power connection.

    The model that I have is not listed on Daiichi's website.

    Here's the version I have.

    I think it's an early 'Taro' model
    may21sp-img600x450-1288620690tfc9by26417.jpg

    004.jpg
    Control box and plugs


    Their website has a wiring diagram for the newest versions.
    http://daiichi.net/jp/products/catalog/dlx-1.pdf
    But I can't translate a PDF file

    004.jpg001.jpg

    The lower circuit board has plug marked CN106 and has red and yellow wires (the usual colors for power)

    The other plug ends are not marked (red/yellow), but a couple bundles do have tags.

    Image0001.jpg

    And the control box label

    Image0003.jpg

    So, my question is, Am I correct to connect power to the Red and yellow wires?

    I'd hate to see a puff of blue smoke and have to throw one of these in the trash.

    Wait a minute... A blue smoke cloud sounds cool, maybe I'll go blow up a slotcar motor

    I need Help I really do
    My favorite color is Ham

  2. The following user says "Thanks" to BigBearSteve


  3. #2
    Ensign Newton owennewton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    McMinnville, Oregon, United States
    Posts
    4,830
    Thanks
    32,278
    Thanks Received
    5,244

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    I don't have the info to help but please film it when you go blow up the slot car motor
    the

    LLTR

  4. The following 2 users say "Thanks" to owennewton


  5. #3
    Pachi Puro Moparformances's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Diamond Springs CA
    Posts
    13,943
    Thanks
    26,303
    Thanks Received
    11,925

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Quote Originally Posted by owennewton View Post
    I don't have the info to help but please film it when you go blow up the slot car motor
    Never Doubt that a small group of thoughtful, .......... /........ If your not going to stand behind our troops
    ...committed people can change the world. ............. /.................Please, Please stand in front of them
    .....Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has............./
    .........................................Margaret Mead

  6. The following user says "Thanks" to Moparformances


  7. #4
    Goodwill Ambassador luckydog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    bradenton, florida
    Posts
    31,487
    Thanks
    13,448
    Thanks Received
    24,108

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    my only battle counter does have red and yellow hooked into the transformer at the 24 volt end

    its a Nikkei Vehicle brand
    幸運わんわん Luckydog or Yukiwanwan in Japanese

  8. #5
    Super Turtle BigBearSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Bearadise
    Posts
    4,114
    Thanks
    3,494
    Thanks Received
    6,664

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Quote Originally Posted by owennewton View Post
    i don't have the info to help but please film it when you go blow up the slot car motor
    OK

    Quote Originally Posted by luckydog View Post
    my only battle counter does have red and yellow hooked into the transformer at the 24 volt end

    its a nikkei vehicle brand
    The King Loo-G models that I have, also use the red/yellow wires.

    But they are a larger gauge wire than the wires on the new counters.
    My favorite color is Ham

  9. The following user says "Thanks" to BigBearSteve


  10. #6
    Ensign Newton owennewton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    McMinnville, Oregon, United States
    Posts
    4,830
    Thanks
    32,278
    Thanks Received
    5,244

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    I went and looked at mine and it is a red and yellow pair for power, 24 volt. the power wires are 14ga with all the rest being 20ga or smaller if that helps any
    the

    LLTR

  11. #7
    Super Turtle BigBearSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Bearadise
    Posts
    4,114
    Thanks
    3,494
    Thanks Received
    6,664

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Quote Originally Posted by owennewton View Post
    I went and looked at mine and it is a red and yellow pair for power, 24 volt. the power wires are 14ga with all the rest being 20ga or smaller if that helps any
    That's why I have a concern.

    All the wires are the same gauge, but I do have the one plug with red/yellow seperate.
    My favorite color is Ham

  12. #8
    Ensign Newton owennewton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    McMinnville, Oregon, United States
    Posts
    4,830
    Thanks
    32,278
    Thanks Received
    5,244

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    you may want to open one up and see if it looks like the power input, looking at the traces and the board you can tell most of the time
    the

    LLTR

  13. #9
    Hyah! rubberratt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Nebula M78
    Posts
    1,968
    Thanks
    2,484
    Thanks Received
    2,630

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    I have a few of those BCs and they are really nice. Power IS the red/yellow

    24v and don't worry too much about the gauge diff
    Last edited by rubberratt; 02-06-2011 at 06:41 PM.

    せぶん戦闘機 せぶん

  14. The following user says "Thanks" to rubberratt


  15. #10
    Super Turtle BigBearSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Bearadise
    Posts
    4,114
    Thanks
    3,494
    Thanks Received
    6,664

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Cool, Thank you!

    What about the other connections?

    Do you need the little box? Or does the counter connect direct to the cell?
    My favorite color is Ham

  16. #11
    Super Turtle BigBearSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Bearadise
    Posts
    4,114
    Thanks
    3,494
    Thanks Received
    6,664

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Isn't it a beautiful thing!!

    011.jpg
    My favorite color is Ham

  17. The following 7 users say "Thanks" to BigBearSteve


  18. #12
    Pachi Puro KimbaWLion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    JUST outside Philadephia Pennsylvania
    Posts
    2,651
    Thanks
    5,022
    Thanks Received
    2,457

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Those Counters look pretty darn kewl! Wish I had money for some! Seems I am too busy getting pachis than to spring for the battle counters!
    I supposes I should get some some day! Maybe we should have a battle counter sticky for when people as clueless as I will be get them!
    I may not be the best guy, BUT I am not the bad guy!- Coop from Megas XLR

  19. The following user says "Thanks" to KimbaWLion


  20. #13
    Super Turtle BigBearSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Bearadise
    Posts
    4,114
    Thanks
    3,494
    Thanks Received
    6,664

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Check the research center up top
    My favorite color is Ham

  21. The following user says "Thanks" to BigBearSteve


  22. #14
    I was thrown out of Top Gear Drunkenclam's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Guildford, Surrey
    Posts
    27,508
    Thanks
    12,919
    Thanks Received
    17,885

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    They look similar to the ones I brought. Currently between here and Japan. Be interested to see how it goes and if mine cabled will be labelled. Also I'm colourblind.
    And I wire up auto doors for a living
    Ian #UKPachinko

  23. The following 2 users say "Thanks" to Drunkenclam


  24. #15
    Hyah! rubberratt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Nebula M78
    Posts
    1,968
    Thanks
    2,484
    Thanks Received
    2,630

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Nah ya don't need the box ^_^ Just use the 6-wire connector (the one next to the power 2-wire) to go to the Pachinko's output connectors.

    Um... it might be really easy to take the colorful 6-wire connector from the control box, and plug that into the counter. Use whichever gives you the right connectors. I sometimes have to wire them up so that they will be accepted on the Pachinko panel.
    ______________________________________________________
    Quote Originally Posted by KimbaWLion View Post
    Those Counters look pretty darn kewl! Wish I had money for some! Seems I am too busy getting pachis than to spring for the battle counters!
    I supposes I should get some some day! Maybe we should have a battle counter sticky for when people as clueless as I will be get them!
    You need ANY help at all Jeffrey, and I'm right here for ya man !
    Last edited by rubberratt; 02-06-2011 at 07:54 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

    せぶん戦闘機 せぶん

  25. The following user says "Thanks" to rubberratt


  26. #16
    Super Turtle BigBearSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Bearadise
    Posts
    4,114
    Thanks
    3,494
    Thanks Received
    6,664

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Quote Originally Posted by rubberratt View Post
    Nah ya don't need the box ^_^ Just use the 6-wire connector (the one next to the power 2-wire) to go to the Pachinko's output connectors.
    Thanks RR

    I'll pull everything else.
    My favorite color is Ham

  27. #17
    Hyah! rubberratt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Nebula M78
    Posts
    1,968
    Thanks
    2,484
    Thanks Received
    2,630

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Anytime BBS

    せぶん戦闘機 せぶん

  28. The following user says "Thanks" to rubberratt


  29. #18
    I was thrown out of Top Gear Drunkenclam's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Guildford, Surrey
    Posts
    27,508
    Thanks
    12,919
    Thanks Received
    17,885

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    they look the same as mine apart from I got numbers 501 and 528.
    The control box seems to be the inputs from the cel. Plugs are either for 0v switch or current switch.
    Unsure why its asking for 15vdc.

    Draft FAQ (for comments) - Battle Counter Output Terminals.

    I think you need to seperate the 6 pin plug out of the conrol box. Its labeled on the box in pairs.
    I will keep looking
    Ian #UKPachinko

  30. The following user says "Thanks" to Drunkenclam


  31. #19
    I was thrown out of Top Gear Drunkenclam's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Guildford, Surrey
    Posts
    27,508
    Thanks
    12,919
    Thanks Received
    17,885

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Hmmmm my week on call, so unable to play.

    These are my two.


    One thing I notice is that there is no fuse. If you are connecting to the 24vac side of your transformer. I would recommend fitting an inline fuse. I think 500mA will do. I'll check with a meter when I can.

    Also had two other things sent at the same time



    A figure of Karin Sasamori and a Cutie Honey cel.

    Already to
    GET SOME WORK DONE
    on my games room.

    Ian #UKPachinko

  32. The following 10 users say "Thanks" to Drunkenclam


  33. #20
    Hyah! rubberratt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Nebula M78
    Posts
    1,968
    Thanks
    2,484
    Thanks Received
    2,630

    Default Re: Battle counter help

    Hi Again,

    Here is the only connector you need to control the BC for the standard functions

    Pins 1-6 (3-pairs) Sorry for the wrong connector info before BBS

    RR
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by rubberratt; 02-08-2011 at 09:19 PM.

    せぶん戦闘機 せぶん

  34. The following 4 users say "Thanks" to rubberratt


Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Battle Counter
    By teek in forum Pachinko Modifications
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-16-2010, 08:53 PM
  2. Battle Counter
    By mbodi in forum Modern Pachinko
    Replies: 53
    Last Post: 08-14-2010, 09:43 AM
  3. Battle Counter Where do I get one???
    By Planedoc in forum Modern Pachinko
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 04-28-2010, 09:42 PM
  4. I want a different battle counter
    By rubberratt in forum Modern Pachinko
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 06-07-2008, 08:35 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •