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    Default Making Keys for Vintage Pachinko machines

    What would you be willing to pay to have working keys for your vintage pachinko machines? I've been talking with a locksmith and we are currently working on a proposal, I just need to know what I could possibly sell them for before I make an offer to the locksmith to have them produced. He has already made me working keys for my Sanyo, Sankyo, Toyomaru, and Nishijin models A,B, and C

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    $5 plus maybe a couple bucks to ship.

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    has already made me working keys for my Sanyo, Sankyo, Toyomaru, and Nishijin models A,B, and C
    That's awesome
    $10 a piece S/H included


    I'd go $40 for a complete set just send me Invoice
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    I'd go as high as $10 with S/H.
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    how would this work on the magnet style of locks???

    im reading this thread like there is on key for each style of machine but i know better then that???
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    As long as we're on the topic of keys:
    In others opinion/knowledge, what does the key do? I know what MINE does, wondering what others know.
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    There is not a master key that fits all vintage machines, each machine manufacturer has its own type of lock, each lock has its own number or letter code that was for each of the different pachinko parlors so they would have one key to open all the machines. Most of my sanyo machines have an "S" lock - there is an S stamp on the face of the lock. Most of my Sankyo machines have a "K" lock, there is a K stamp on the face of the lock, an S key will open all S locks and a K key will open all K locks. Nishijin has three or four different types of locks, and each type of these locks are marked with a number, same numbers can be open with same number keys so a key made for a lock with a number of 31 will open all locks number 31. I am putting together a data base of locks and keys so you would just have to tell me the type and the number or letter of the lock and I can have that key cut and sent to you. Magnetic locks on the Nishijins parts are unobtainable, so I will post step by step instructions on my web page to modify these lock, so you can use a master padlock key to open them, once I get all this together. Here is a Nishijin and a Sankyo keys I had made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardwwi View Post
    There is not a master key that fits all vintage machines, each machine manufacturer has its own type of lock, each lock has its own number or letter code that was for each of the different pachinko parlors so they would have one key to open all the machines. Most of my sanyo machines have an "S" lock - there is an S stamp on the face of the lock. Most of my Sankyo machines have a "K" lock, there is a K stamp on the face of the lock, an S key will open all S locks and a K key will open all K locks. Nishijin has three or four different types of locks, and each type of these locks are marked with a number, same numbers can be open with same number keys so a key made for a lock with a number of 31 will open all locks number 31. I am putting together a data base of locks and keys so you would just have to tell me the type and the number or letter of the lock and I can have that key cut and sent to you. Magnetic locks on the Nishijins parts are unobtainable, so I will post step by step instructions on my web page to modify these lock, so you can use a master padlock key to open them, once I get all this together. Here is a Nishijin and a Sankyo keys I had made.
    great information thank you for seting us (ME) straight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    As long as we're on the topic of keys:
    In others opinion/knowledge, what does the key do? I know what MINE does, wondering what others know.
    Gilly

    is this a trick question???

    it opens the Pachinko Machine from the frame???

    on rare occation some will open the glass but verry few will
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    Nope, not a trick question. Maybe the old single balls are different or something. You can look over the pics I posted to verify this, or I can get more pictures up.

    On my machine, the only function the key cylinder has is to stop payouts. The cylinder attaches to an arm which hold the red plastic seesaw into the down (incorrect) position. The lock doesn't actually lock anything at all. The game could still be played, and the winning balls would all end up in the holding area, so eventually they could pay out a jackpot once the lock is unlocked and the seesaw put in to the correct position.

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    Also on mine the machine swings out from the frame or the glass door is opened only by levers behind the frame. Again there is nothing to block this, other than one of them has the small nail with the red plastic head which prevents one of the levers from being lifted. This is a pretty common feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    On my machine, the only function the key cylinder has is to stop payouts. The cylinder attaches to an arm which hold the red plastic seesaw into the down (incorrect) position. The lock doesn't actually lock anything at all. The game could still be played, and the winning balls would all end up in the holding area, so eventually they could pay out a jackpot once the lock is unlocked and the seesaw put in to the correct position..
    interesting... guess i should dig my Single shot aout and check that out..

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    I am planning on offering these keys to owners who wish to mount their machines in cabinets, like they were designed for. So that the machines don't have to be augmented and you don't have to come up with a bizarre way of accessing the back of the machine for service. I think what I'll do is have extra keys made for the machines I have and offer the keys for sale to anybody who wants them that has the same locks with the same numbers. As I increase my database of locks and keys, I'll offer them as they come up. I will also post on my website detailed information on how to determine which type and lock number you have, and whether or not I'll have a key that will fit your machine. I have yet to determine the price, but I'm thinking it will probably be between $10 and $15 per key.

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    So it is somewhat odd to have a machine like mine (Nishijin Model A single shot) in which the key does not allow anything to open, it only disables the payout?

    From the old time video I saw about Pachinko parlors, the machines were mostly kept running from behind.

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    I think the main reason they have the key access from the front is so they can adjust the nails
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebb View Post
    That's awesome
    $10 a piece S/H included


    I'd go $40 for a complete set just send me Invoice
    That sounds like a good deal for me as well. I'll buy a set; there is no such thing as too many keys. Please send invoice.
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    I would pay $5-$10 plus shipping. What about Daiichi machines?

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    So, how goes the key build? I have a mid 70's Sanyo and I think it should be worth $5-10 for a key even though there are several other methods for opening the case.

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    any news on this? A working key would be pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendC View Post
    any news on this? A working key would be pretty cool.
    I would love to have good news for everybody, but unfortunately the locksmith who was working on this for me is in the hospital. He had quadruple bypass surgery. I'm not sure when he'll be back to work, or what the status will be. He has other things he needs to worry about at the moment.
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    I hope he recovers quickly and is able to return to work. Because I have some machines that having a key for would be knida nice. Thanks for keeping us informed.

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    Are the some of the keys just a hollow tube with just notches cut in the perimeter, and if that is the case couldn't one just use a pantograph / tracer type of machine to duplicate a sample? After all that is what a key cutting machine does.
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