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    Default 1950's Ginza Help needed

    I would be grateful for any information on a 1950's Ginza Pachinko machine. Especially a diagram of the backside. It seems to be missing a part where the see saw is located but I just don't know. Also having a problem uploading image. It has a round red thing with the ginza logo the the payoff balls are circling.

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    Default Re: 1950's Ginza Help needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Masmissian View Post
    Also having a problem uploading image.



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    first off



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    pictures please..

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    Hello Masmissian and welcome to the group

    I'm mostly into modern pachinkos but I wanted to say HI

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    Welcome Masmission! I have 2 old Ginzas. One works fine, and I ploished all the brass on the back...years ago, probably don't look it by now. The other was apparantly dropped on the backside which bent the tray, and the ball track...so the track is removed. You say the seesaw area? the seesaw area is complete on each one. I haven't posted pics in awhile (laptop died), but maybe my new ohone will do the trick!

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    Default Re: 1950's Ginza Help needed

    Thank you for your reply...how so I view these images?

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    I haven't taken them yet. The machine is in the attic, and I just got a call from a friend that has a water pipe spraying. Told them to shut off the water and I'll be over. I know the site has a file size limit...so my old pics won't work. My smartphone has several settings...one of them should work. I'll try some test pics when I get back...not sure how bad the leak is...so probably this evening. I tried to find my original post on it...it should have popped up when I searched Silver Springs...must be too old.

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    Thanks.Salem Oregon. Pics as soon as I get off work

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    nice early machine

    looks like the frame is missing?? do you have the frame??

    looks compleat
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    looking at the back of yours, it looks complete. Except for a plastic cover over the seesaw. Will work fine without it. The seesaw looks like it is in the down position. If balls go into any pocket when it is down they should go into a chamber where the oval window near the flipper is. I should say "may" because at least 1 of my 2 has a fake chamber that there is no way for balls to get in or out. More on that later.
    press down on the seesaw right where the wire touches it. Right now it is like this \ , you want it to be like this /. When loaded with balls (enough to release the "safties" that stop it from playing when empty), and drop a ball into any pocket (and the seesaw is like /) the seesaw will tilt down, like \, and release the ball into the path that drops it out behind the left bell. In that path it will unlock a hook and press down on the brass bar which will lift the green bar on the right. this bar tilts the brass "measuring tray"...only if he top ramps have enough balls to release the "safty" I mentioned earlier. I called it a measuring tray because it holds exactly 15 balls to fill the jackpot. These "measured" balls will roll off the measuring tray and onto a tilting ramp behind a plastic window. If the plastic window is missing...balls will bounce out onto the floor. Your plastic window appears to be intact. The tilting tray does a couple of things...one, it pushes the stiff wire down on the backside of the seesaw, automatically resetting it. It also works the brass linkages that release the "trap door", dropping the jackpot balls onto the bells and into the front tray. When the machine is completely empty...the balls will fill the jackpot, and stay there. The next JP ball will initiate the sequence of events I just described.
    I just got home from a couple of side jobs...fixing a galvanized pipe leak (100 year old house...with 80 year old plumbing), and fixing a power window. Gotta keep the money coming in until I land a job!
    Right now I getting the Ginzas out of the attic and gonna take some pics for you...anything in particular you want to see?
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    Test photo. 20170815_231203.jpg Reduced megapixels on camera and loaded this shot of "polished Ginza" without the top tray, with my smartphone. Don't know how to rotate pics on phone. It is a bit tough on the small screen. But I'll get it done.
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    Polished Ginza has a plastic cover over the seesaw. Unrestored Ginza does not have a cover. Both of mine have a "moat" surrounding the seesaw. 20170815_232939.jpg[ATTACH=CONFIG]88121[/ATTACH20170815_232849.jpg

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    20170815_235658.jpg20170815_235704.jpg20170815_235720.jpg This one is Polished Ginza...I don't recomend polishing the brass. I just doesnt look right...old machines should look at least a little old, even if you make everything else look new. You also get black residue on the wood around the brass...and it makes it hard to take pics of.
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    Lots of small posts. I'm gonna have to dig up the digital camera and find the SD card slot on the laptop. The whole phone thing is difficult. Take pics, use a jewlers loupe to look at the thumbnails, then post them. Then my phone don't show the pics...just says "attachment". So I post them in order to see how they turned out on the laptop. Then I edit to add words to the pics...but you only get 10 minutes to edit. Like I said earlier...gonna have to dig up the digital camera!

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    Do you have pachinko balls? Throw the rusty ones away...or use them for sli gshot ammo. When you fill the machine for testing, you must fill at least enough to trip this lever to the right. The vertical brass one that holds the pin on the measuring tray. In this pic, the ball domp hook is up. IT NEEDS TO BE DOWN OR YOU WILL SPILL BALLS EVEREWHERE!
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    20170816_001541.jpg20170816_001525.jpg In the previous post I posted the pic that was supposed to be last. Post #18 pic is ball dump extension tube extended and ball dump lever up...dumping upper tray balls to the right and down the metal chute into a catch box...or onto the floor, if you didn't mean to open it.
    pic #1...ball dump closed, ready to load.
    Pic #2...see post #18...ball dump open, do not load!
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    Hope that helps. I'm done with the smartphone way...need to dig up the real camera and do it right. Feel free to ask any questions, or any areas that you need more pics of...and post some closer pics of your seesaw, fromseveral angles. I would like to see if it ever had a tray surrounding the seesaw or not. And to see if there is any evidence of a plastic cover nailed to the back.

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