Understanding Play design

[JamesM]

Please explain the difference between Round and Count.
Most games have 12 or 15 rounds, but what is count?

[Tulsa]

I'll use my favorite Thunderzone as an example.

The number of prize spheres 4&7&15
確率（通常） 1/353
Probability (definite change) 1/58.8
Definite strange thrust ratio & type 1/2 + 1 time loops
Even coming out ball Approximately 2250
Round & count 15R ･ 10C


Now you see the "Even coming out ball" = 2250 (bonus payout)
Round and count are 15 and 10.

When in a bonus round you get 15 balls when you get a ball through the trap door. You get 10 balls in the trap door per round 10*15=150 Then you get 15 rounds of these 10 counts, so 150*15 = 2250.

[JamesM]

Tulsa,
Is that why the trap door only accepts a certin # of balls before closing?
ie, after 10 balls, the door closes

[Tulsa]

From what I've seen in my play, that's not exactly an accurate assumption. I've seen the trap door opening and closing repeatedly throughout the rounds, after 2 or 3 balls have entered, it closes and then reopens. When you reach 10 in the Thunderzone example is when the game goes to the next round.

[JamesM]

hm so count is the max # of ball you can put down the trap per round
then the display drops by one(ie, from 9 to 8) to show how many rounds are remaining.

It's like Baseball;
each round is an "at bat"
the round (inning) is over after the maximum count or time limit, or foul(round canceling pocket)

[Tulsa]

You seem to have it. Now while it is the max, I can't say for sure it's the minimum. I have no idea whether they have an internal counter for time and if you don't hit 10 (or whatever count yours happens to be) by X then it moves to the next round. It very well may. Obviously, there's no external time counter showing this if it exists.

I say this as the "approximate" word is used. It could be the approximate 2250 in the Thunderzone example is allowing for bonuses that continue after a particular individual bonus round. One day on my Thunderzone, it paid out over 16,000 to me. It's this larger payout that I applied to this approximate reference. It may be less too, I do not know for sure.

[slotter]

I'll use my favorite Thunderzone as an example.

The number of prize spheres 4&7&15
確率（通常） 1/353
Probability (definite change) 1/58.8
Definite strange thrust ratio & type 1/2 + 1 time loops
Even coming out ball Approximately 2250
Round & count 15R ･ 10C


Now you see the "Even coming out ball" = 2250 (bonus payout)
Round and count are 15 and 10.

When in a bonus round you get 15 balls when you get a ball through the trap door. You get 10 balls in the trap door per round 10*15=150 Then you get 15 rounds of these 10 counts, so 150*15 = 2250.

Thanks for that, Tulsa! Learned something here!

[arbycoffee]

Yes, for those that are new, this is a good read