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    Default Credit LED does not register tokens

    I have a Yamasa Epselan. The tokens do not register on credit LED they go into the payout bin. I did a complete reset and it still does not accept the tokens. I do not get any error codes. When the machine was working correctly I would always hear the click from the coin relay when I turned on the machine. Now the relay is in the open position. If I manually close the relay and insert a token it will go into the coin hopper but will not register on the credit LED.

    I did clean the coin hopper. I also pulled out the coin mechanism it looks OK all plugs are seated correctly

    I need some expert help.

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    did you press the credit button on the front of the machine?

    your credit led should say zero, if you did,
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    Default Credit LED does not register token

    I think that I said the wrong thing. I should have said that the paylines do not light up.

    Thanks,

    AL

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    The credit LED shows 00. Did you see my reply? The tokens do not register on the paylines. Also the joy stick does not light up. I am able to change the skill settings from 1 thru 6.

    Happy New Year

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    Are the tokens dropping straight through to the tray below?
    Meanwhile, somewhere in Oklahoma.

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    That is correct, they are going into the front tray. The coin relay is not operating.

    AL

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    maybe not doing a complete reset.

    follow each step complete

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    I think Otto has a decent grasp of doing a reset on the machine. I think it my be the solenoid on this coin mechanism. I was looking at my Yamaha's earlier and there's not that much to go wrong but if that solenoid isn't engaging the plate back into place to accept the tokens, they'll fall straight through.
    Meanwhile, somewhere in Oklahoma.

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    Thanks Arbycoffee I did the complete reset and that did not fix the trouble. Tulsa or Arbycoffee what would be the voltage going into the solenoid? That would be one way to determine if the coin solenoid is not working.

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    I'm reading 66.5 vac on it. It's not changing voltage when a coin in dropped either. The voltage looks to flicker for a 100th of a sec and maybe that's enough. Otherwise a constant 66.5.

    Now I'm reading from a magic pulsar but the case looks identical and there would be no reason for this model case to change the coin mech.
    Meanwhile, somewhere in Oklahoma.

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    I re-read this a little closer, since it doesn't seem to be an easy one.
    First off, the coin mech. solonoid isn't picking when you turn on the machine, right? That says solonoid itself, OR power to it.

    The joystick isn't lighting up... which is connected to the same board as the coin mech... again indicating power.

    And when you hold the coin door closed, and run tokens through... no credits are registered... again, looks like the coin mech AT LEAST isn't getting power... to the sensors either.

    Are there lit stop buttons on this model? Do they light up? I think they also get power from this board.

    As far as the odds setting LED, that might be powered by the CPU board, through a cable leading to that interface board. (If indeed the LEDs are on that board like in my Magic Pulsar... the only Yamasa I own)

    Check ribbon and other connectors leading to that interface board. Trace them back and re-seat them on the other end as well.

    Finally, if fuses are accessible... check those out.


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    I am reading 1.4 volts on the 2 yellow wires that come from connector CN3. That connector and the 4 blue wires that come from the coin optics to CN4 are the only connectors that do not have a release clip. So it appears that no current is coming to the solenoid.

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    The two yellow wires was what I was reading the 66.5 vac. However, mine are cn4. The wires on cn3 are orange and lead to the cash out button.
    Meanwhile, somewhere in Oklahoma.

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    I have checked the connectors, they all are seated correctly How many fuses are there? I checked the main 10 amp fuse on the power panel. I see a fuse on the what I believe is the reel stop board on the top right side of the cabinet. Any more?

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    Well wait a second. I went into the garage where I house a Yamasa Hot Area. Since it doesn't have the El Vision system, it is more like your and my cn3 has those to yellow wires. I didn't read any voltage on those wires and this machine is working fine.

    I didn't see any other fuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czyotto
    The credit LED shows 00.
    Double zero... This is really strange, too.

    Not sure about fuses, if they aren't easily seen. They MIGHT be in the power supply. Unplug it if you go in there, of course!
    I hate to beat the loose connector thing, but have you checked the connectors on the power supply, as well as on the interface board?

    Again... does the model have lit stop buttons... are they lit?
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    The stop buttons do light up. But they do not light up when I drop a token in now. The tokens go into the pay out bin.

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    The Yamasa models are nice because they have a decent set of leds for troubleshooting.

    Look on the main cpu board above the reels for the leds. As a quick sanity test, press stop buttons 1,2,3, and you should see 3 different leds light up.

    Next, hold down the electromagnet clip, and roll a coin down the coin path. You should see 2 other leds light up. Report on the status of this test...

    If you leave the machine on for 30 seconds or so, does the machine go into error mode by itself?

    The bottom left wire in the picture (wrapped in plastic spiral) provides power to the electromagnet.
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    Hi Pachislousa,

    When each stop button is pressed LED's J, K, and L light up.

    When I hold the electromagnet clip in and drop a coin it goes into the hopper and LED's A & B flash.

    When the machine is on for over 30 seconds the error light does not go on.

    I checked the wiring on the bottom with the plastic spiral the connector is seated correctly in the power box and on the door (CN9). The colors are Brown, Red, Yellow, Green and Blue. Also in that bundle is 2 green and 2 yellow leads going to the speakers from the power box.

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    Thanks to everybody that tried to help me find the trouble with this machine. I had been working with Grandview Products the past week and I was not able to resolve the problem. I returned the machine back to CostCo. Now I have a Babel. I hope I will have better luck. Thanks Czyotto

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