Pachislo Slot Capture Methods?

[azlew]

Ok I just ran across this site tonight and I can't tell for sure but is this what I think it might be ? :

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4937/slotc9ln.gif

And here is the url for it non translated :

http://www4.ocn.ne.jp/~spark/top.htm

And here is the google translated page :

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww4.ocn.ne.jp%2F%7Espark%2Ftop.htm &langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Right before it lists individual Pachislos with links to their "capture methods" is this statement (translated version) :


The i-mode (information of slot capture, after the collecting, it releases on occasion. Not to overlook,!)


So what does this all mean? Are they methods of obtaining more tokens before or during bonus plays ?

Also you will notice that Pachislos like Neo Planett,Popeye,Sinbad Adventure,Super Blackjack etc are all listed with these "slot capture" methods.

So an inquiring mind needs to know!

Anyone care to tackle this and explain what is going on?

Thanks!

BTW I just found this statement on this website (translated version) :

This sight has published, capture method (ceiling information) being free.
In capture method proper ROM * reverse side ROM * measure being completed hole *
In regard to understanding please use the fact that you can think various circumstances with the influence of area and the like
In addition, in capture method from old ones there are to up-to-date ones, but
Those which 100% guarantee come out anywhere and come is not
At the time of capture method use, complaint and the like as for this sight being not to accept altogether
At the time of use, please use in the range which is enjoyed with the individual

[rupan777]

It's a site full of strategies/"cheats" for getting payouts on those different machines. Probably most of these have appeared in magazines before. Since pachinko and pachislo are forms of gambling in Japan, there are many magazines/books/websites that teach you how to win. Some of the methods are genuine as they can exploit bugs or peculiarities that exist in machines (they are computers after all) but a lot of them are fake. As you can imagine there are a lot of shady operations that sell these cheats to desperate gamblers who want to win by all means necessary so you always have to be careful not to feel as if .

I'll write a thread about this one day.

[azlew]

Well hmmm these are free on this website so is this site a rip off in that maybe the Japanese parlors are trying to get people to think these work ?

I am finding other websites that are quite interesting also.

Oh and Rupin please feel free to share the urls of websites(that you know of) in Japan that have these also. Keep in mind it costs us nothing to try these capture methods in our own homes...right?

[rupan777]

I think that this Slot Capture site is just a pachislo fan (maybe we should invite him to join us...? ) because 1) the website is really cheap looking, 2) The BBS basically only has a small handful of people in conversation and with an average of 2 posts per week, 3) I've only found a couple of webpages that have reverse-linked to his page, 4) the URL is coming from ocn.ne.jp which is a Japanese ISP so it's like the equivalent of someone using AOL or Geocities.

I'll try to search for some more genuine "capture" sites. Maybe the magic will work for you guys.

[azlew]

Ok from that site I have this link for a Sinbad Adventure capture method :

http://www4.ocn.ne.jp/~spark/shindbad.htm

Now here is the best online translation I can get :

Is the Sindbad adventure how with the Enomoto adding 奈 child

Rt game several distributions
Normal mode 548 - 675 G
Ha aegagropila ード 420 - 547 G * 676 - 803 G
Aim eye
After the reg (being continual, it is proper)
After 420 - 931 G bonus
(Stay mode check)

SZ thrust (to come off, eye promotion) hitting method

1. From demonstration picture with care 50 entry nul turning.
2. Until Lee play is even, care 1 it digests with +MAX.
3. After Lee play it digests with repetition care 3.
* As for 1 child part NG, as for 2 as for child part other than リプ with NG as for standard 3 - 5 G extent.

You can see now the problem we are going to have. All I can do when reading this is say : What the :questionm

This capture method isn't as elaborate as some of the others listed. Take a look at Neo Planett for example :

http://www4.ocn.ne.jp/~spark/neo.htm

All of this is quite interesting.

And yes we supposively have methods for US slot machines also but the one I tried (one of them is for Wheel Of Fortune) is as you say a rip off.

[rupan777]

Most pachinko/pachislo magazines have some "capture techniques" in them as well as reviews, data, previews, tons of ads, comics, etc. Here are some of the more popular ones:

pachi_1113[1].jpg "Pachinko Magazine"

051007[1].jpg "Pachinko Hissho Guide" ('Hissho' means "guaranteed Win")

max_0511[1].jpg The above magazine's pachislo twin brother "Pachislo Hissho Guide"

original_sp[1].jpg "Pachinko Original Hisshohou" ("Hisshouhou" means "guaranteed winning methods")

While we are at it, I'll throw in a Japanese lesson. The term that is used for these methods is kouryaku houhou (攻略方法）. Kouryaku literally means capture but many cases its a euphemism for win, beat, and sometimes cheat. Houhou means the way of doing something or method.

[azlew]

Yeah I bought a few of those magazines a year or so ago and liked the pretty pictures but I couldn't understand what was going on. I believe Arby has a few and I think he gets advance views of new machines coming out in the parlors in Japan that way.

[azlew]

...... Kouryaku literally means capture but many cases its a euphemism for win, beat, and sometimes cheat. Houhou means the way of doing something or method.

So there are cheats for Pachislos besides the jamming something down the token slot to get extra credits or using electronic devices ?

This will be fun finding more about this!

I am glad I found that site now as it kinda opens up a new aspect to playing these wonderful machines!!

[JapNoodle]

i think linked site below is trustworthy.
http://www.hazuse.com/
they use 1 byte Katakana in their site. like this ｶﾀｶﾅ. 2bytes one is カタカナ.
many web translators are difficult to understand 1byte Katakana.

pachinko is controled by the nail only.
but pachislo is not completely random odds like pachinko.
if you play pachislo in japan without much infomation like hazuse.com has, it's very risky.
these applicable to currently mainstream machines. '5th' machines and normal type like New Pulsar are similar to pachinko and have no such infomation.

some example
'2 Cherry' is very HOT when playing HokutoNoKen.
after that probabilaty that you'll get bonus within 32 games is very high. (Watermelon is also HOT)
http://www.pachiguide.com/Images/Fig...Transition.jpg

[JapNoodle]

many fraudulent groups just defraude money from victims
(i think SlotCapture is there just for affiliate money.)
but in some situation, you can capture bonus.

1.Bugs
this is rare but if bug discovered, soon be circulated in a lot of BBS.
some fraudster use these infomations to entice victims

2.Gadgets
this is common but considered illegal. if you have been found when using the gadget in parlor, you'll get arrested.
Goto2.jpg

3.Professional
criminal group replaces ROM, Connector or etc at midnight or even in daytime.
then victim play with particular procedure and victim truly win jackpot.
Goto1.jpg

i wrote about 1 and 2 at past thread. see linked thread below.
http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7059

[arbycoffee]

When people look at spheres as Yen and not fun, all kinds of greed comes forth.

[rupan777]

Excellent analysis, JN.

I do want to point out though that the magazines can not legally endorse illegal methods (though they do accept advertisements for them). The magazines can print the strategies that allow the manipulation of a machine within the legal realms, as the website in the OP and the one JN linked do. An rough example of one that you might see is,

"For CR XXXX, if you lose this super reach, stop playing and wait for the demo screen to appear. After this, shoot 2 balls into the left gate, wait for the demo screen to come out again, then keep playing. Your odds of winning will increase by 30%"

As you can see, it's debatable whether or not method is truly effective. The magazine "Pachinko Original Hisshohou" I scanned above gets these kinds of strategies from pachi fans and actually has "pros" try them out and comment on their effectiveness. However, to me, many of them are placebo-like, like a lucky charm, to just make you feel as if you still have a chance.

[azlew]

The interesting thing about all this is that this is the first time we have discussed the availability of alternative winning ways to play Pachislos besides "eye" shooting as GAKU has discussed on Big Bear. Sure we have discussed the cheating aspect by mechanically altering the Pachislo one way or another.

So now that I have brought forth this one site called "Slot Capture", we have mention of mutitudes of sites in Japan that discuss this. So far we have only one site that has been urled for us (by Japnoodle) besides the one I found. How about posting more for our amusement?

One thing for sure is that if any of these capture methods really do work : I sure wouldn't want to be setting Pachislos up as casino machines here - as my luck would have it someone would come in and clean all my nickles out of my Pachislos

[barny1100]

I think this is also a Fake as the Programm on the site www.scancardsnow.com
for Pokerplayers at Empire Poker ect... like me"LOL"
But many People are trust this Site and buy the Program?!!!!??
Anyone will have this holy Sh..t Programm for free Pm Me

[rupan777]

I was hoping you wouldn't realize that before I paid you a visit, Lew.

OK, I was looking through a lot of my links on my Japanese PC and google and came up with a few:

Assist Brain - they have videos with explanations in Japanese. Free but you have to sign up individually for each machine you want to see - possible spam warning. Pachinko and pachislo.

http://www.as7.co.jp/index.html

Pachisuro Kouryaku King - has more techniques for more popular machines. Also has a cute introduction for English speakers. Pachislo only.

http://slot.main.jp/

Office-P - Like Assist Brain, free but you have to sign up for each machine you want to see so there could be spam warnings. Pachinko and pachislo.

http://office-p.com/free/

Pachinko Kouryaku Juku - Looks like a fan/sponsor funded site; no signup necessary. Pachinko and pachislo

http://macfreeman.fc2web.com/index.htm


That's a few to start with; most of the ones that I have bookmarked require registration by Japanese cellphone so I assume that they wouldn't be worth looking into, maybe JapNoodle has a few more he can share with us.

[JapNoodle]

capture methods do not work unless a machine has illegal ROM and the
method exactly matched with that ROM. (this is my supposition though.)
but if that methods work, many japanese become rich and parlors will go bankrupt.

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http://dm16.cside.jp/~s16068-1/slot/#Model
http://www.pachiguide.com/Content_Slot/Frame_S_C3.html

these sites above are genuine (i think).
these kind of site are carrying infomation which is probably copied from some magazines.
many genuine magazines probably analyze ROM (or bought that info? or with maker's help?).
(typically makers are not officially publicize these infomation cauze these info
related to loophole of the law.)

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i think guys here wonder why i believe these infomation.
because pachislo makers discover loopholes few years ago.
techniques that maker thought out from the loopholes were ST(StockTime) and AT(AssistTime).
i think few people know this already.
you can get detailed infos about ST(ストック機) and AT below.
http://www.pachiguide.com/Content_Slot/Frame_S_C2.html

if you wanna learn more about law related to Pachi, GREAT site below is for you.
http://www.y-pokka.jp/

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if you hit 4 consecutive Replay at KyojinNoHoshi, you'll get Bonus.
why this can be happen is that cause the machine has (implicit) ST.

as i mentioned in past thread, the law was revised last year.
so infos for new '5th' machines are not valuable like for '4th' machines are.

pachinko has no such useful infomation so far.
new pachinko (like CR UltraSeven) has few info which can be used in parlor.
but that info has no worthy compared with pachislo's.

[rupan777]

Thanks for the Pokka link, JN. I always wanted to know about the laws regarding pachinko more deeply because I was always under the assumption that there's a lot of "grey" areas, especially in regards to remittance of cash winnings.