Recirculating System or Standard

[njbryan]

I am going to be buying my first pachinko game...Seems like they come 2 ways, standard as played in the pachinko parlors, or modified to use a recirculating ball system...Any opinions on this one? Which is better? More fun? Any technical issues to be concerned about? Does it take away from overall gameplay if the recirculating method is used? Thanks!

[luckydog]

Both are good,

Palour ready requires a lot of 3 handed ball handling when you hit the big bonus, and you only have 2 hands. I work up a sweat trying to keep the bottom tray emptied and the payout tray filled.

Cyclic is much easier in big bonus, you don't have to handle any balls, the 100 or so in the tray just circulate. the only difference is you don't get any ball payoffs. and no trays to empty and fill.

[arbycoffee]

If you have any small children or a girlfriend, wife you want to get them into Pachinko. Than you will have a better time of it on a Pinball Type Action (Cyclic Usage).

Most women don't want to mess with dumping balls all the time and children will spill them all over the place. So you end up standing there doing all the ball work so they can play, allot of fun, huh?

I have both types and the parlor ready machines are great if you have a recycling system, like in the parlors. I have a small one used at Pachinko shows, and it's nice holds two machines need about 5,000 balls for the system $1,400 on sale, $2,200 when not.

I have tried Ball lifters $190 range that you hook up to the machine, it does cut down on ball handling 50% of the time. But in long dry spells or bonus back to back, it is not good.

You have members that would not touch a PTA machine and only play the parlor ready one. If they tried one, I think they would feel allot different.

[azlew]

I have to agree with arby that parlor ready(no circulation) pachinkos are not for women and children. It's a manly machine that requires lot's of balls and you have to know how to handle them using Tulsa's method. Women tend not to like to handle balls in large quantities. So unless you are a manly man and learn Tulsa's ball handing ways, I would recommend going with the circulation adapted pachinko.

[dattia]

I am so biting my tongue right now.

[Tulsa]

I like them both. I like Pachinkos period. Until I got a CU version I was unable to let my neices play and enjoy it since I had to stand there the whole time and move balls around for them. Not fun. CU is perfect for them. They have no clue what's going on anyway.

Having 12 or 15 balls shoot out at you during a fever round is nice and you certainly have a better feel for winning but you end up paying less attention to what is going on becuase you're moving so many balls around. A good fever round can last an hour and net you 16,000 balls in winning. Assuming that like most of us you have at least 2000 balls in your machine, you're moving the entire lot at least 8 times during this fever round. You will sweat before it's all over. Some prefer this, others don't.

Consider the cost factor too. A CU machine which can run on 50 to 100 balls vs a parlor ready machine that you'll need to purchase at least 1500 extra balls to play comfortably.

[Tulsa]

I am so biting my tongue right now.

Shame on you!

[dattia]

[logicprobe]

I've played both, and enjoy both.
Some machines are better enjoyed with CU. You get to enjoy the lights, videos, sound, etc. without having to worry about re-filling the supply. Unless you have a ball management system that has a constant supply of balls (like a parlor), you won't have that same experience.
Other machines might not need CU, and the workout is kind of "feverish fun".

Now, for those of you GUYS with Yellow Cab... would you rather be watching the video, or reloading a hopper?

Star Wars scenes? Same way for collectors, right?
I get more of a kick out of the Thunderbirds scenes because it's CU... something I wouldn't get the same enjoyment from if I had to be reloading it all the time.
I've even thought of converting my Lord of the Rings, just so I don't miss out on the amazing fever experience. Or... at least tying it into a management system.

But with reels that just jump around during a fever... maybe it's better to have something else to do.

I can say this...
Consider the opinions from those who have BOTH types of machines, rather than just one type. I've yet to hear of anyone that has actually played a CU machine that didn't see the advantages of each type.

Now back to the Yellow Cab... that's obviously kind of a "sexist" machine, isn't it? Dattia, you weren't thinking that women and children being too weak to fill a hopper was sexist, were you?
:smirk:

[dattia]

Not exactly LP. I would like to say that I was taking the moral high ground...but that is SO far from the truth. It was just a cheap shot of the raw variety that I decided to keep for my own enjoyment.

[logicprobe]

OK... Now I get it.
You were going to say something about pachinko balls, weren't you?

[dattia]

OH, pachinko balls. Never mind.

[johntofva]

OH, pachinko balls. Never mind.

[luckydog]

Palour ready pachinkos are for Manly Men

cyclic Pachinkos are for everyone

[azlew]

:lmao:

[arbycoffee]

it is funny, but in Japan the C.U. sell higher than P.R. on an average

[luckydog]

They don't have room for their balls there!!!!!!

[Dazzyman]

Can I ask if u have a link or what Tulsa's method is please?

[arbycoffee]

Hey Tulsa! … … TULSA

[Lazarus]

I have a Armageddon pachinko. it is a video type. I started to get turned off from pachinko because I did not like moving balls around and the cost of a ball lifter was too much.
I decided to buy cmk's Gladiator from him and give pachinko another try. I took it apart and converted to cyclic. According to Arby it is not true cyclic because the balls go down to the bottom try instead of going to the top try. On this model it would require allot of rework to get it to do this. I am glad I did it. I play it allot more and now have more interest in pachinko. It has it's disadvantages. No pay out of balls, but don't have to keep putting balls in the back top payout hopper. You still get to move some balls around from the bottom try to the top but is easy even during a bonus round. I can now watch the reels to see what is happening and if it is in reach I get to enjoy seeing if it gives me something instead of worrying about filling up the machine and getting balls from the back or the draw underneath. I now think of getting another one, but it will be true cyclic from the start.