What does it mean?

[doodude]

Ive got a question about our friends, the Pachislo.

If there is a memory, hard drive, brain within the machine & it determines the outcome of each spin, then what is the point?

Dosent this make our efforts to eyeball the reels futile?

Isnt it just a matter of the setting ( 1 -6 ) & the number of spins that setting requires to reach bonus rounds?

Isnt the term "Skill Stop" misleading?

[Tony Junior]

Dooster, you're giving the machines too much credit!

At least, I think so anyway.

[Tulsa]

The term skill stop is obviously not a Japanese term. Welcome to the wonderful world of advertising rhetoric.

[minnesotabrad]

I think if there are odds you set and the machine can and will give you clues to what is coming up on the reels, it doesn't really involve skill.

[scooby_doo_m2002]

so then except for a bonus where it tells you what stop to stop, its more less like a vegas except you have to stop the reels?

[birdbrain]

Ssshhhh!!!!!

[Lazarus]

Most of the time the machine determines the outcome but when the machine decides it is time to get a bonus it will start giving you signs. Each machine is different and what type of bonus system your machine has but when it starts telling you it is time to start eye shooting because at a certain point the machine is no longer determine what the reels land on to a point. At this time if you eye shoot and say get two sevens but you press the third stop button and the machine decides you should get into bonus it will slip up to four places to get you the third seven to get into bonus. If you don't eye shoot it will after a time give it to you any way but if you eye shoot you get it sooner.
If you were in a Japanese parlor and you ewer paying money for the tokens then the sooner you hit the bonus the more you save and thus the more you win. You would try harder to know the signs that it is time to eye shoot and then get the payoff sooner, and get more tokens sooner. Gaku at Big Bear explains it better and in more detail.
So there is some skill at certain times. Not like American ware the outcome is determined even before you start the spin.

[Tulsa]

It's based on a random number generator and is determined before the spin. You can eye-shoot the left and center reels pretty easy but the machine controls the right reel and will slip into the desired position for the outcome. Gwarzin once had found a site with a great breakdown of it. It's on here somewhere. It's certainly more fun to be able to hit two 7's consistantly and see the machine light up but it's not going to increase your chances of hitting three 7's anymore so than if you just pressed away without thought about it.

Now you can have some control over avoiding the JAC game delaying your entry into an RB or BB but that appears to more of the sequence of reels you stop and not exactly eye-shooting.

Lets face it, you can't really eye-shoot a Yamasa but you can win none-the-less.

[Tulsa]

http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3040

This is Gwarzin's thread on an Aruze patent that explains how they work.

[monaghj]

I think the clue rule is being revolked for machines made in 2005 arn't they ?