Ebizo Pachislo reels not in synch with machine

[Ebizoowner]

Forgive me if this has been asked before. I looked and didn't see my problem listed. I've had this machine for a few years now and it works great except that the images on the reels don't match up with whatever the machine is doing. Resetting it doesn't help. It'd be nice to know why I won or lost. If I win a big jackpot I have no idea why. I've looked online for answers but the only thing I'm thinking it might be is that the motherboard doesn't match the machine?

Would removing the reel cage and replacing it help?

Very appreciative of any assistance you can give me.

[MrGneiss]

WELCOME!!!

If the reels were ever removed and not put back in the correct order this can happen.. If we can find a page with a pic of the correct order (They are common on pachislo pages) then you can check to see if the reels are in the correct Left, Center, Right order!!

I'm not familiar with your machine, can you post pics??

Here's a link to a posting pics how to!!

https://www.pachitalk.com/How-to-Post-Pictures

[takethecastle57]

and biscuits

[Ebizoowner]

Thanks for your prompt reply. I’ve attached photos of the machine, I think it might at be pretty old. It is missing one light bulb on the lower left panel, need to get to that someday. I did find one photo online of the machine and I can see that the left and right reels are in the wrong positions. I’ve viewed YouTube videos about how to remove the reels, but this machine doesn’t have any release knobs. I could remove the reel tapes from the reels and exchange them. I have been trying to figure out this thing forever, trying to use deduction whenever a jackpot would hit to adjust the reels. It’s like an Enigma machine.

[Wayne-Ooo]

The middle reel is in the correct position. The two outside reels are in the wrong position.

They need to be switched.

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[Ebizoowner]

Thanks for the info about comparing to photo of another Ebizo machine. So now the reels are in the correct order, but still not showing up in synch with machine. I think the reel tapes are not correctly placed on the reels. There's a small tab that sticks out on each reel and I figure that has to mean something. Also on each reel tape is the code RL 04 and the reel number. Any ideas?


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[Wayne-Ooo]

Normally there is a tab on the reel, that passes through a senor. This is how the machine knows where to stop the reel.

Being that the center reel is correct, line the tab for that reel, to the sensor. Then line the tab on the first reel to the sensor and place the graphics on the reel, to where they coincide with the center reel, using the picture I posted of the reel placement.

[Ebizoowner]

I get what you're saying, but I don't think any of the reel tapes are in the correct position on the reels, including the middle one. I've been playing it for the past hour or so and if I get a nine jackpot on one line, I know it's three plums, but that's not what's on the reels. I've tried marking the edge of the reel in pencil where a plum should be and resetting the tape for a plum to line up there, but there are four or five plums per reel tape. If I get a two jackpot on a line, I know it's a cherry on the first reel and there are only two cherries on that reel and I still can't seem to even get the first reel correct. I'm going bonkers.

[ebb]

EB.. you’ve had the machine for years.. has it ever played correctly?
The reels just pop out with one connector
try moving one to three and visa versa

[Ebizoowner]

No, it's never played correctly. I bought it at a flea market, so I didn't have high expectations for it. I just thought it looked great. Didn't even know what it was and never looked into fixing it. Just played it without knowing why I won or lost. The reels are now in the correct order but it doesn't look like the tapes aren't correctly placed on the reels. The only other thing I can think of is that the motherboard is for a different machine.

[Ebizoowner]

are correctly placed on the reels, not aren't

[Drunkenclam]

Thats a mystery. Unless someone has the exact same machine to cheack against. or there are some locating pins for the reel graphics. Did you change the reels completely or just swap the graphics?

Can you see 海老蔵 or エビゾー written anywhere on the motherboard?

[Ebizoowner]

That's probably where I screwed up. I switched out the reel tapes and not the actual reels. I did that because I couldn't figure out how to get the reels out. All the videos I've seen have machines with release knobs for the reels, no release knobs here. I'll have to somehow unscrew maybe the whole cage unit? Middle photo is of sticker on motherboard. I wasn't able to recognize the characters you listed.


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[Drunkenclam]

thats probably the interface board.
motherboard should look like this,

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of course, you know I'm going to say. Rebuild both first and third reel with the correct graphics, then put them in their correct location

[Ebizoowner]

I did remove the reel cage and switched reels 1 and 3 and replaced appropriate reel tapes, but didn't know where to apply tapes on reels. The motherboard is attached with screws I've never seen, so I can't see the back of the board. The barcode tape at the top is secured to the board and frame, so I'm guessing it's passed some sort of inspection and would be the correct board. I do appreciate your help, just don't know how to figure this out.

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[Drunkenclam]

I would see if there is anything obvious on reel 2. does the sensor tab line up with the first graphic on the chart. ie the red 7

[Ebizoowner]

That would seem logical, but it doesn't. Thanks for your help, I guess I'll just keep trying to figure it out.

[Drunkenclam]

It's worth checking the alignment against the above chart and copying the location to the others

[Ebizoowner]

The tapes are the same as the graphic above, it's the reels that must be in the incorrect positions. I numbered them 1 2 3, so I've tried 3 2 1 and I just tried 2 1 3 that leaves 1 3 2, 2 3 1 and 3 1 2. It takes a while to unscrew everything to change them out.

[Drunkenclam]

If as you said you removed the graphic strip from the wheel, there is no guarantee it will work no matter what order the reels physical sit. If the zero sensor tab doesn't correspond the the graphic position it will always be out. The machine knows the position of the reel cage not the image printed there.
Well as I said. Look at the middle reel that hasn't been taken apart. Compare the location of the sensor tab to the reel graphic above. ie the third symbol/ the tenth symbol. Or what ever. Then line the sensor tab on reel one with the symbol in the same location. Repeat for reel three.
Failing that. Just play it and every time you get a win or replay. Adjust the graphics location on the reel to suit then use trail and error.