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    Default Re: New comer - first post - Looking for any info about Kyoraku space ship

    Hi !
    Some news : i started troubleshouting the wire and found out that main transfo was giving 17v and 0,3v in stead of expected 24 and 12v ...
    I started unpluging and repluging all connectors and starting to think about troubleshouting the electronics ...
    then after 10 minutes doing something else i ran back and ...
    check the 12v fuse : Dead !
    so tomorrow, i will chase those kind of old fuse around the city and be back to you with (i hope) good news ...

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    Default Re: New comer - first post - Looking for any info about Kyoraku space ship

    By the way, any recommandation where to buy pachinko balls ?
    thanx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katendem View Post
    By the way, any recommandation where to buy pachinko balls ?
    thanx
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    Default Re: New comer - first post - Looking for any info about Kyoraku space ship

    Hi ! Some news :
    1-fuse changed but no improvement
    2-Main electronic boad shows rework (japonese stamp on box)
    3-By visual check, i found a burnt component at 12/24v entry
    4-found as well another sticker with name of the box

    if any one can translate will be great
    and any suggestion for next step is welcome
    by now, i will look for this thermic condo
    fab

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    Burnt component (thermistor?) says NEC 04739

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    Yes it is burnt . Good troubleshooting !
    When things don't go right the 1st time , Step back ,Take a break and come back renewed. RGS

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    Any chance someone has an electric diagram of this board ?
    it is getting very hard to troubleshout !
    i can see only UBD-12 on the board ..
    thanx
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    Hello,
    Some news, checking and soldering the main board, i have no payout.
    One circuit (empty balls and luncher) is working
    Other circuit (PCB) seems OK (2 volatage DC 12 and DC 24) but only central one digit panel is on.
    NO PAYOUT (i will open a ticket)
    Regards,
    Fab

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katendem View Post
    Hello,
    Some news, checking and soldering the main board, i have no payout.
    One circuit (empty balls and luncher) is working
    Other circuit (PCB) seems OK (2 volatage DC 12 and DC 24) but only central one digit panel is on.
    NO PAYOUT (i will open a ticket)
    Regards,
    Fab
    looks like your posting in multiple locations.. i replied to your other post
    Never Doubt that a small group of thoughtful, .......... /........ If your not going to stand behind our troops
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katendem View Post
    Name written with the katakana syllabary: スーパーワンダー
    Hepburn romanization: sūpā wandā
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    (logo) Dikoku Denki / ダイコク電機
    https://www.daikoku.co.jp/

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    Opening strictly prohibited. / 開封厳禁

    If you open the case, we are not responsible for any trouble or warranty.
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    Default Re: New comer - first post - Looking for any info about Kyoraku space ship

    Hi !
    thank you for translations
    so i open the pcb case after 34 years ... i guess is ok as i will not claim for warranty :-)

    some news from the diag :

    PCB has 2 powered circuit :
    1/ 12vac truned to 16vac thanx to a zener diod --> powering the pcb
    2/ 24 vac turned to 32vac thanx to 4 diodes bridge --> connected to playfield (flash lamps, wings solenoids, tulips)
    3/a 10pins connectors goes to one digit central panel (with 12vac)

    Playfield :
    1/ no reaction to ball entering tulip 1 or 2 d all tulips' switches are OK (closed circuit passing curent)
    2/ no lights : i finaly access to flashing lights and they are burnt - i am looking to find E10 30volts lamp to replace
    3/ wings not moving, not checked (do not know how to check - direct 32vac to solenoid
    4/ no sounds

    I still have doubts on the 32vac going to playfield.
    i do not know how the check the logical circuit of the PCB.

    any suggestion for next steps is welcome !

    Best regards,
    Fab

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    Default Re: New comer - first post - Looking for any info about Kyoraku space ship

    Hello,
    New chapter:
    got n w transformer 220v to 110v
    changed central flashing lights e10 24v (instead of e10 30v) and ...
    it works !
    not yet fully (no payout) but i got the lights and the wings opening when a ball goes into tulip 1 or 2
    Also, having a ball inside center hole when wings are open, increase central display 0 to 1 and so
    But no payout :-(
    after couple of test i lost the lights (probably burnt)

    if any one can tell me how payout is working will be great !
    have a nice day,
    fab

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    Default Re: New comer - first post - Looking for any info about Kyoraku space ship

    Is the machine reacting to a pocket hit. Music/lights? Wings opening and closing?

    As for how the payout works. I haven't had a machine of this age or manufacture. So this is generic. Check balls go all the way to the payout assembly. Check you have enough balls to weigh down the switch in the ball tank and that its working.
    Drop a ball in a normal pocket and confirms it drops out the back.
    Last edited by Drunkenclam; 04-11-2021 at 07:20 AM.
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    Hi,
    yes i have now reactions when ball goes to specific pocket : light flashing, wings opening and sound (lound)
    As i have only 250 balls, i may not have enough, i ordered 250 more but will arrive best in 2 weeks, i will let you know.
    in the mean time, i am looking for 30v small lamp bulb as the ones i found so far are 24v and already burnt.

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    Logic probe ? Test to see if the circuit sends a pulse to the payout motors

    https://www.amazon.com/Elenco-Electr...silk_at_search


    You could check the individual wires going to the payout motors by multimeter or again the logic probe .
    When things don't go right the 1st time , Step back ,Take a break and come back renewed. RGS

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    Default Re: New comer - first post - Looking for any info about Kyoraku space ship

    As for the game lights well L.E.D. Will work you might have to use a resistor to use it in a 24-30 volt circuit

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/30pcs-12-Vo...obile#shpCntId


    Here is a great tool you can print out and use.

    https://www.instructables.com/Choosi...Use-With-LEDs/
    When things don't go right the 1st time , Step back ,Take a break and come back renewed. RGS

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    Default Re: New comer - first post - Looking for any info about Kyoraku space ship

    Hello !
    Hereby a picture of what seems to be a collector of balls for payout or jackpot.
    i can activate manualy to free the balls but i do not see any motor ...
    Maybe is missing a part here :-(
    does anyone has a similar collector and tell me if mine is complete ?
    anychance someone post a picture of a payout motor ?
    thank you !


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