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    I have had this machine since Black Friday...I think! I did check the jackpot functions, and play it a little. Plus remove the box that it came in.2050-12-31 23.59.59-140.jpg I started to look at it...then remembered that I need to take some "before" pics BEFORE I clean anything! The top hinge split the wood frame. And the laminate that is glued to the box/cabinet addition seems to be glued to the front (removable) part of the machine. No pics of that...battery was low, and I wanted to save it for more important pics.
    2050-12-31 23.59.59-269.jpg First of all, full front. The 4 blue flaps are losing ball exits. The 2 green pockets between the blue flaps are winning pockets. There are two places to insert a ball into play. The traditional hole in the frame, and the one in the chrome door.2050-12-31 23.59.59-270.jpg Although some of the chrome frame is pitted, and going to peel...2050-12-31 23.59.59-282.jpg The door is in extremely good condition! Except, of course where the ball hits above the hole.2050-12-31 23.59.59-271.jpg There is dirt in the usual places.2050-12-31 23.59.59-276.jpg Can't see it in this pic...but, there is a small hole in the left side of the green "win" pocket, from all the balls hitting it over the years. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-277.jpg Frame ball ramp...2050-12-31 23.59.59-278.jpg door ball ramp. And, of course, the Model A style "jackpot ball window"! It seems that in the "early days", it was important to SEE the balls that you were winning. Model B's did it with the ring of balls you can see in the center. Model C machines seemed to DO AWAY with the "jackpot that you can see" feature. I guess that by then...they rere considered "reliablr enough" that you did not have to SEE the winning balls?
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    2050-12-31 23.59.59-281.jpg The sell is faded...looks like it had a mirror image, that one side faded away. The center is pretty cool! 2050-12-31 23.59.59-274.jpg It says "punch" in the center. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-279.jpg When a ball falls through the middle (punch zone?), these wings pop up. Kind of making a tulip like ball catcher!
    Moving on to MY favorite...The back! 2050-12-31 23.59.59-284.jpg A full back is shown earlier...this is the WHOLE JACKPOT SYSTEM! Of course it is a "recycler"...or, all losing balls recycle back into the jackpot hopper. WONDERFUL for home play...as fewer balls and less ball shuffeling are required! The ONLY ball tray on the back is held on by pins. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-285.jpg And, easily removed. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-283.jpg This is your jackpot tray...and your losing balls refill it! 2050-12-31 23.59.59-286.jpg The notched steel arms are part of the "pressure switches" that prevent jackpot function when "low ball" condition exists. You can also see that the mangled leaf switch is rivired to the door plate. It is spliced into a lower terminal block.2050-12-31 23.59.59-289.jpg Goes up the right side, splices into the center lights...2050-12-31 23.59.59-289.jpg2050-12-31 23.59.59-289.jpg
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    Then goes up into the top terminal block. NO FUSE anywhere! Looks like original, untampered with wiring!
    2050-12-31 23.59.59-287.jpg2050-12-31 23.59.59-288.jpg This is the payout tray. It is sheet brass soldered together. It is also badly oxidized. I hate scrubbing and polishing "patina" off of vintage parts...but sometimes it's necessary! 2050-12-31 23.59.59-293.jpg Jackpot seesaw in UP position. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-294.jpg Jackpot seesaw in DOWN position. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-300.jpg 2050-12-31 23.59.59-301.jpg This button resets the seesaw into the UP position. Not directly, but through a jackpot pressure tray and linkage rod from it, to lift the seesaw! The lever next to it is the "ball dump" lever.2050-12-31 23.59.59-304.jpg The "hooked" position that it's in...is the normal position, the lower part of the slot...DUMPS!

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    2050-12-31 23.59.59-272.jpg2050-12-31 23.59.59-273.jpg2050-12-31 23.59.59-298.jpg2050-12-31 23.59.59-299.jpg I want to preserve this label. I plan to glue the edges back down before it tears off. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-314.jpg When a winning ball travels through the seesaw, it trips this safety. Without a JP ball passing thru the seesaw...this lever (that I'm holding up with a screwdriver) blocks the JackPot tray from tipping. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-315.jpg As the ball moves the lever...it releases the JP tray. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-316.jpg The balls spill from the jackpot tray to this bar. It tilts down, directing winning balls to front...while resetting the seesaw. This is the same bar that the brass reset knob lifts to reset the seesaw...as seen earlier. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-317.jpg Attached thumbnail is the reassembled...light cleaning. You know what I mean...you don't want to play something. thinking that you are going to GRIND DIRT into hard to reach places!
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    Very cool machine.

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    I like that punch pocket wing thing above the center!!

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    I was kind of surprised by that one. It was "open", which I didn't think much of. Then a ball went into it...and it disappearwd!

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    Welcome to the limited number of Narita owners! Mine was never wired for any lights, so it predates yours a bit but is otherwise the same. Also, this one has the word Family above the center emblem on the start pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naha13 View Post
    Welcome to the limited number of Narita owners! Mine was never wired for any lights, so it predates yours a bit but is otherwise the same. Also, this one has the word Family above the center emblem on the start pocket.
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    True! Plus, the "lost ball" (plus 2 win pocket) part on yours is metal...and all the other (two) ones, like mine are green plastic. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-356.jpg I also love the Pegasus in the center! I didn't really want to take it down too far...but I really wanted to clean all the ball paths. This plastic part is more of a soft, flexible plastic. Flexible plastic does not polish well...like a hard brittle plastic does. You can "kind of" see the hole in the left side of the win pocket. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-324.jpg I am really surprised at the wear on 3 of the spinners.2050-12-31 23.59.59-325.jpg
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    The stuff is glued to the part of the front that is removable from the frame.2050-12-31 23.59.59-327.jpg Everything above the wood strip, comes off with two thumbscrews from the back. I can get the front off...if I carefully cut it loose with a router. Then a good belt sanding to the edges of the front. I have some great oak planks from an old project...I may try to build a new frame/cabinet for it. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-361.jpg I took it apart and put it back together a Bunch of times. Every time I put it back together...I could remember about some CRUD still in a corner. Back apart again. Always cleaning and polishing something else each time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pachiwall View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moparformances View Post
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    shooter spring should work better on top of the nail instead of under the nail..
    2050-12-31 23.59.59-370.jpg It wouldn't squeeze through the gap...so, I had to remove it and thread it through the gap between the cell and frame.
    2050-12-31 23.59.59-365.jpg I know I can't be the only one who does this to keep it from falling over when the door is open. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-366.jpg And, of course, wood shims to keep it from wobbling. Another thing I do often times, is...filing the sharp edges off of stamped sterel stuff. There are many sharp edges on all machines. It just makes it seem "finished".
    Shined most of the nail heads...just to tease myself.2050-12-31 23.59.59-369.jpg It is just a tease...because it just don't look right with shiny nail heads and a faded cell. I'm thinking of a cell replacement, because it looks so easy on this machine. The question is, do I replicate the exact same design...or just use an "off the shelf" replacement from one of the many choices made by members here?
    When it came to cleaning up the jackpot tray, I finally got a chance to use my "dedicated buffer" to shine it up. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-363.jpg2050-12-31 23.59.59-364.jpg It is known as a dental lathe. Got it and the spiral tapered arbor (to mount the wheel) at a garage sale for $50.00, new they are $350.00. I was tired of removing the wire brosh wheel to mount a buffing wheel...then switching back! Even with a 4" wheel, red rouge, and all that power...there still was some dark brown spots where the heavy corrosion was. I would like to ger a spiral arbor (reverse twist) for the other side. That way, I could mount two wheels, and have different grit for each side.
    I cleaned it up enough for now. The title says it all...I bought this machine about 8 months ago...and never looked closely at it yet. So this was actually MY closer look at the Narita. I like what I see! I really like this machine! Very unusual, fascinating mechanicals, and plays well. As a recycler, it plays nearly continuously without shuffeling balls. And the payouts are enough to keep you in balls to play...without running out or overfilling your play tray. It is a single ball machine...so, if that is not your thing, this machine won't change your mind. But, I like them!
    When I decide to do the cell, I will ollk into building a cabinet for it. As stated before...the original frame has issues. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-355.jpg The hinge split is probably the dealbreaker. In addition to that, yhe whole outside is covered with a thick durable Formica (or something like that).And it is WELL glued down.2050-12-31 23.59.59-326.jpg A tiny bit in a router, cutting through the laminate about 1/2" from the front edge would free up the front of the machine to be removed from the frame. A belt sander would remove what is left on the edges of the front.

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    I'm thinking about using some wide oak boards to make a cabinet/frame based on the same design as the original. You know...using the tenons that hold the bottom in place.2050-12-31 23.59.59-358.jpg And using the wing nuts to lock the top in.2050-12-31 23.59.59-355.jpg I already used this pic...but it is the only pic I have of the wingnut mount. Mounting it this way is not necessary...just seems right.

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    Great series of pics on your Narita! I could be wrong, but I think jacksje and I are the only other members that have a Narita.
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    There is a long thread about one that was on eBay that sparked a "what is missing on this machine" conversation. http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/show...Narita%2C+tray It was missing the tray. Rival bought it, and had plans on making a tray for it. No new news since Oct 2012.
    I plan on searching the threads just to see what else I can learn about it.
    I love the metal "lost ball" gate assembly on yours, as well as the Pegasus on the center feature. I woul;d like if mine had that lens, with the lights like mine. I have not tested the lights yet. there is nothing wrong anything to look at it, but never hooked up to power. I have considered adding a light to the JP dump tray that can be seen from the front. It is almost hidden from view in a dark spot. Also the "funnel" that sends balls to the front tray is green plastic. Light from behind the machine shines an errie green glow through the ball opening when on my workbench. I thought a backlight here would look nice. All triggered by the JP switch, of course! And if I can wire it "clean" enough to not look tacky and added on.

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    I wanted to make a video of the JP sequence...but know my skill limitations! But I did find this! http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/show...Narita%2C+tray

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    2050-12-31 23.59.59-327.jpg I can get the front off...if I carefully cut it loose with a router. Then a good belt sanding to the edges of the front.
    2050-12-31 23.59.59-373.jpg Maybe I was overthinking it just a bit! A tack hammer, pocket screwdriver, and a pair of pliers was all that was needed to shread most of it off. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-372.jpg This side was clued better and needed more tedious work.2050-12-31 23.59.59-371.jpg The laminate was a drawing of wood on plastic...mounted to a wood panel. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-377.jpg Success!
    As stated earlier, the frame is split fro the hinge of the added cabinet. I'm gonna try to fix it. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-378.jpg Spread the split open and fill with wood glue. Notice the cardboard box mounted to the workbenck th catch glue drips. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-387.jpg A chunk of the laminate is still stuck th thecorner. I couldn't get it off without tearing off the split edge. The belt sander will take care of that. Gonna need it to sand the whole frame anyhow.

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    After the glue dried, I broke out the belt sander. 80 grit on a 3" belt...then a quick dusting with 320 grit by hand.2050-12-31 23.59.59-375.jpg Still some contact cement left. I didn't want to sand off too much wood. 80 grit 3"X21" belt will remove too much if you're not careful. Whatever the wood for the frame is, I expect it to be inexpensive. Whatever it is, when sanded, it looks pretty good. 2050-12-31 23.59.59-374.jpg The front (actual machine is different...but that seems common.
    While shining up some nail heads, I decided to shine the win cups. Including the one that is cleverly used as a "foul" pocket for undershot, or overshot balls.2050-12-31 23.59.59-389.jpg I got bummed when i noticed the crack in it. But, it is not that noticable, and it's not a critical part...and most importantly, it is an old machine, it will have problem parts. At least nothing important is missing.
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    While shining up some nail heads, I decided to shine the win cups. Including the one that is cleverly used as a "foul" pocket for undershot, or overshot balls.2050-12-31 23.59.59-389.jpg I got bummed when i noticed the crack in it. But, it is not that noticable, and it's not a critical part...and most importantly, it is an old machine, it will have problem parts. At least nothing important is missing.
    funny, i spotted that right off.. my guess is it cracked on purpose. with the nail on the one side and the thickness of the ramp on the other i'm guessing a ball will not fit unless it was cracked and opened up a bit.. just a guess

    also interesting to see a silver / painted nail
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    Ok! I'm sure you are all getting tired of hearing about the Narita. So I'll taper off until I decide to build a cabinet for it.
    But this thing still fascinates me...so, I did some digging. Here is one whitedawg found on craigslist. Notice that this one had an upper ball hopper that is broken, and looks like part of it is in the lower tray. Plus the lower tray is blue plastic! Not to mention it is an autoloader. Cant tell if it is a single ball conversion, or a front overflow from this angle. No evidence of any member buying it.
    Microbus99 posted this one from eBay: A front overflow! And a blue plastic part in the jackpot area that is steel on mine. The front is hinged to the frame, where mine is of the wingnut system. I believe the one whitedawg found above is hinged as well. It is missing the tray, and it was a big discussion here as to what was missing and how to fix it. It was ultimately won by Rival. No word if he ever figured out the tray.
    JACKSJE4's machine:
    naha13's machine: This one has a hard curved overflow ramp that is usually a spring on later models.
    TailTrauma's machine:
    Looks like his uses the wingnuts.
    sharmoni's machine: Another older machine without lights.
    And finally spazin's machine: Notice the wingnuts over the tray. I think they hold the steel housing onto the back. I can't imagine why. I think most of has to be disassembled to remove. So there are a few of them out there! Hopefully a few more show up...I'm sure there are a few of you still wanting.
    OK! I think I can calm down now.
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