New to Pachinko, just bought first machine!

[RarezHut]

I run a Japanese rock and visual kei shop here in the states, and I decided I wanted to add a pachinko machine at our booth at conventions. I picked up a SANKYO CR FEVER X JAPAN machine off yahoo auctions, and I'm super excited. It's on it's way to the warehouse we use for importing, and should ship here in 9 days. (The prospect of shipping costs worried me at first, then I remembered we ship 100+ lbs almost every month)
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/t555200328

Where's the best place to buy silver balls? Engravings would be cool, and I bet people at our booths at anime conventions would get a kick out of it. I'm reading about all the accessories like hoppers, ball lifters, and counters. I'd like to reproduce that pachinko parlor experience as much as possible. Can I get your suggestions? I'm new to all this.
(Note: I am no good at building things, and need an out-of-the-box solution for things like a ball lifter.)

[Peteybob]

Hello RarezHut and welcome to the group

Nice find, you will have fun sharing this with your guests! I've found this seller on eBay to be the best source for balls. They have new, used and cleaned, plain and engraved. I'd suggest getting 2000 of the used and engraved ones if it fits into your budget.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/pachinkopag...p2047675.l2562

I'm posting a couple pictures from your link, hope you don't mind. In time the link will be dead from the auction site and others will want to see your pretty machine

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[Drunkenclam]

Why not get them in japan and ship with your machine

[MrGneiss]

WELCOME!!!

[hanabi]

[RarezHut]

I'm looking at balls on yahoo auctions. I wonder...would anyone be interested in us importing balls? I can get 1000 for about $20
I think a battle counter would be cool, but I'm clueless what to look for. Also, holy crap ball lifters are expensive.

List to get:
hopper for balls people put in to machine
hopper for payout balls
hopper for prize balls (is this built in?)
Battle counter (?)

sorry if there's a lot of questions. My vision sucks, and it's hard for me to see all the details in a crazy-busy picture.

[Peteybob]

I'm looking at balls on yahoo auctions. I wonder...would anyone be interested in us importing balls? I can get 1000 for about $20
I think a battle counter would be cool, but I'm clueless what to look for. Also, holy crap ball lifters are expensive.

List to get:
hopper for balls people put in to machine
hopper for payout balls
hopper for prize balls (is this built in?)
Battle counter (?)

sorry if there's a lot of questions. My vision sucks, and it's hard for me to see all the details in a crazy-busy picture.

There's always an interest in a cheaper source for balls and other accessories but you also want to figure in the shipping and fees from within Japan and also to your location, then to the end user. Two cents a ball is a great price at $20 per 1000 clean balls delivered. Having something in place already might save you a lot.

As you ask about hoppers for balls I presume you are interchanging the word hopper with a tray? Ball/token trays (also known as dollar boxes in the Japanese auctions) come in many sizes and colors. Players might have a tray of balls to play from and/or use a tray for collecting their won balls. There is a hopper built into the upper back of the machine for the winning balls to pay out. These come out in front to the upper tray (below the glass) and will over flow into another tray built in below that one. Buttons are in place to manually drain the front trays downward to a tray or container placed underneath. The upper tray in the front is where you load the balls to launch onto the play field. You will also want a tray or something to catch the waste or shot balls that fall out the bottom rear unless your machine has been modified.

There is an addictive element with these as one may become three in only months

ps: Are you aware of the voltage difference between the US and Japan? Also these run on 24VAC requiring a proper transformer. Be careful not to prematurely plug it in when it arrives.

[RarezHut]

Holy cannoli, balls acquired. 3300 silver + 33 gold

[Moparformances]

Holy cannoli, balls acquired. 3300 silver + 33 gold

yes but your machine will only hold 1000 balls in its factory setup..

and of course



Welcome to Pachitalk

[pachiwall]

yes but your machine will only hold 1000 balls in its factory setup..

and of course



Welcome to Pachitalk

Trust me...there will be more!

[RarezHut]

Guess I just gotta get that Persona 4 machine I've been eyeing.





One could could say I went

balls deep

[RarezHut]

I've already got my eyes on Persona 4 the Pachinko, Ranma 1/2, AKB 48, and Cowboy Bebop. I have to prove this is a profitable venture though, and it'll pay for itself within 6 months or so.
(I wish there were more machines for Jrock)
on second thought, maybe Akawa Nanase over AKB 48. It's not just about what I like, but what'll be popular at anime cons. P4 is a no-brain ER, Ranma was my first anime and I can't NOT, Cowboy Bebop is an eternal classic (plus it has a corgi and I have a corgi), and Akawa Nanase is as close to Jrock as Koop gets. I might snap if I hear AKB 48 for 9 hours every day. I REALLY want Babymetal, but my pockets aren't that deep. I'm really surprised bands like Malice Mizer, GACKT, or Versailles don't have one.

What kind of transformer we need? Link?

[Peteybob]

For the transformer for use in the U.S. you will want one that has 120 volts input and 24 volt AC output being these machines run on 24VAC. Some may ship with a transformer already attached but it would most likely be rated for the Japanese standard of 100 volts input. So you could be running a higher amount of power into it by using one already attached which in turn may or may not affect your machine. (Additional input from others would be greatly appreciated on this.) I change mine out with new ones if for nothing else some peace of mind.

You will also want to consider the amps needed by any machine which is either stamped on a data plate or on one of the rear plastic covers. For my newest machines I had picked up some 15amp transformers like in the link below. I happened to find a guy unloading four of them so I got them cheap but they can get expensive depending on what you find. I hope this helps some.

https://blackhawksupply.com/collecti...y_24v+va_375va

[RarezHut]

For the transformer for use in the U.S. you will want one that has 120 volts input and 24 volt AC output being these machines run on 24VAC. Some may ship with a transformer already attached but it would most likely be rated for the Japanese standard of 100 volts input. So you could be running a higher amount of power into it by using one already attached which in turn may or may not affect your machine. (Additional input from others would be greatly appreciated on this.) I change mine out with new ones if for nothing else some peace of mind.

You will also want to consider the amps needed by any machine which is either stamped on a data plate or on one of the rear plastic covers. For my newest machines I had picked up some 15amp transformers like in the link below. I happened to find a guy unloading four of them so I got them cheap but they can get expensive depending on what you find. I hope this helps some.

https://blackhawksupply.com/collecti...y_24v+va_375va

thanks, I'll pick this up.

[kurumilover2003]

I've already got my eyes on Persona 4 the Pachinko, Ranma 1/2, AKB 48, and Cowboy Bebop. I have to prove this is a profitable venture though, and it'll pay for itself within 6 months or so.

Just gonna say, I have 3/4 of these machines, and the Cowboy Bebop and P4 machines proved the most popular last year at SJ, with a dude throwing down over 300 dollars to continue playing on my P4 for a couple hours. Not sure about 6 months, but if you take them to cons and charge per play, they will turn out to be profitable pretty soon after purchase hahaha.

[RarezHut]

Just gonna say, I have 3/4 of these machines, and the Cowboy Bebop and P4 machines proved the most popular last year at SJ, with a dude throwing down over 300 dollars to continue playing on my P4 for a couple hours. Not sure about 6 months, but if you take them to cons and charge per play, they will turn out to be profitable pretty soon after purchase hahaha.

what's SJ? Can I ask what you're business model is? How much do you charge for balls? Do you offer prizes?
I know offering prizes is still not considered gambling (just look at arcades), but I just want to have the specific law in my pocket just in case somebody decides to question it.

[RarezHut]

We just got the X Japan machine delivered today! FedEx shipped it in two parts, so we're trying to figure out how to reassemble it.
Does anyone know where I can get a Pachinko stand like the one over at Clover Collectables for less than the $500 they are asking? http://www.clovercollectables.com/pr...roducts_id=138

here's the transformer in there What do I need to get?

[Spyder138]

FedEx shipped it in two parts, so we're trying to figure out how to reassemble it.

Hi. Please post a couple photos so we can see what needs to be reassembled. Sometimes the cel ships in a second package and sometimes the whole front door assembly ships apart from the frame.

Did the machine ship with a Japanese transformer? It's going to be 24v, but not sure what you need for amps. If there is a Japanese transformer you can check the amp rating and probably use it until the new transformer arrives if you don't play the machine for extended periods of time.

[RarezHut]

Hi. Please post a couple photos so we can see what needs to be reassembled. Sometimes the cel ships in a second package and sometimes the whole front door assembly ships apart from the frame.

Did the machine ship with a Japanese transformer? It's going to be 24v, but not sure what you need for amps. If there is a Japanese transformer you can check the amp rating and probably use it until the new transformer arrives if you don't play the machine for extended periods of time.

jNzQBjB.jpg I think I just need a 100v to 120v outlet adapter right?
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The boxes that (hopefully) have the key and manual are still in Memphis for some reason and heading here.

[Peteybob]

Many newer cells simply snap into place behind the door and is easier with two people as these get top heavy fast when open. Without a key you can still open the door with the glass to insert the cell. Looking at the rear along the left side you should find a rail system lining up with the front door lock. A latch can be depressed one way to open the glass door and the other way to open the complete machine from the frame (for when mounted on a wall or in a cabinet).

Sometimes opening up the front lower panel will make things a bit easier to assemble. With the glass door open look at the top right corner (from the front) of the panel below the door. you should find a tab of sorts to depress which allows this to swing open. The ease of assembly may depending on the connectors on the back of your cell. Some will simply slide into clips starting on the left and the locking in place on the right. The locks or latches inside the frame, upper and lower right side, may need to be opened prior to inserting the cell. Some cells have wires needing to be reconnected.

Feel free to post additional pictures of the back of the cell and frame if you need further aid. I also have extra keys and dongles. Just send me a PM or message here if you don't receive yours.

That 3 AMP transformer may not be enough resulting in under powered components depending on the machine specs.