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    which one is reset button? want me to post pictures?
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    if your machine has an on/off switch the red reset button should be right near that.
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    Yep I checked mine and I have a Big Red Button and a very very tiny micro switch that drains the Rear top Ball Hopper and of course the Black rocker power switch
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    So Error Code is gone, fuse and dongle have been changed, what to try next? Shooter only works at first touch, and full blast, anyone got a ideas how to fix? Do I need a new shooter? Should I take apart and see if I can see a problem? Or is there a easy fix? Open to ideas and advise

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    Not sure if I have any manuals for this frame. No other adjustments? Sounds like it's stuck on full power. Does it have a direct connection from knob to shooter hammer, or is it fly by wire design.

    At at least you have something to swap parts with. I'd start with the handle and work back. If the fuse blew, there might be a blown component somewhere. Of course a visual inspection of all the parts connected to the shooter would be good too.
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    So here whats going on, you hold the shooter at full blast, then go lower and machine is playable, some times you need to try it twice to make it start shooting, I tighten one screw, don't think it did anything, but maybe, seems that whatever controls the speed/power of each shot is not working at all times, not really sure how to fix or what exactly is controlling the speed/power, there are many pieces that slide when you turn handle, and it hard to see, and has a plastic cover which can only be removed if you take out the piece in front of it, which has lots of wires and machine wont work without it hooked up. I will post a picture of motor and stuff, its hard to see in picture, when watching how it worked, I had the machine open and tipped forward to see behind motor and what was happening
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    I pressed the yellow button while turning on machine, and machine went crazy, testing all lights and moving pieces. Is this just a test or is that how machine resets? It lasted a good 2 to 3 minutes, then went back to normal running
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    Does anyone know how speed/power works? What exactly is happening to tell shooter how hard to launch each ball?

    I don't want to sound dumb, but whatever controls it is my problem, and if I can figure out whats not working right, maybe I can clean it up or tighting something
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    I think it works something like a rheostat??

    other member have said they are tricky taking apart and putting back together!!
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    Some moderns the motor runs at constant speed but use a can to pull back the shooter arm then a spring pulls it back to fire, the knob adjusts the spring tension to adjust power.

    Yours is is probably the other sort, where the shots per minute is the same but the power is adjusted, probably a solenoid type. Seeing as it already fired at full power, it will not be the shooter its self. More likely to be a board or knob. If you can find where the knob plugs in to the board, you can pull the plug and test the connections with a good multimeter. Just don't ask me what the pins are but you would have a ground. Stop button and something to detect how far it's turned. I have a spare Heiwa knob around here some where I can look at.

    now without sounding daft, it's nothing silly like a rubber buffer/stop has come off and making the shooter fire to far. Not had one of these apart so unsure of construction method.
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    So each day I learn something new, The problem is the motor just stops running, I have it disconnected and it just stops as you change the speeds, The power/speed of ball is controlled by a spring, I took a picture of all sliding pieces and spring for shooter, and a picture of inside part of motor.

    Any ideas?
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    Still unsure about reset button, here are the 4 buttons I have on back of machine001.jpg

    Unsure what this one does
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    This one ran test for 2-3 minutes of all lights and moving pieces, its that a reset?
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    This one is closest to the on/off switch, not sure what it does

    There also a black button that drains top ball hopper, found out the hard way on that one
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    So after power up, it only shots at full power for a while then stops dead? What adjusts the spring tension to vary the force?


    I would still still start at the knob and work your way back.

    I think I still have manuals for superman returns out in the stores, I'll have to check
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    If you do have it, that would be awesome
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    quester, I just wanted to let you know that I can sympathize with you.. I have a Hokuto no Ken pachinko that I am unable to play due to the shooter working at full force when I touch a finger to the shooter knob. I have an outstanding help ticket here that you are more than welcome to review or contribute to if you can provide any assistance. More importantly, best of luck with your machine!


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    So, I'm back, replaced the fuse (ordered from china, on ebay), got superman working again, but matrix still not working correctly, same problem, its seems to be the motor isn't working correctly, I have it unhooked from machine, and it turns on, at full speed, but once I lower power of shooter, it just turns off, everything seems to moving correctly from handle to all moving parts that hook to spring, nothing seems loose or broken, there 1 (4 way) wire that connects to motor.

    I still don't know what button is the reset, and how to tell if the reset worked, one button ran a test of all the lights and moving parts, is that a reset? or a light test (yellow button)

    Please help, starting with reset button, There are 4 buttons on back of machine that I found
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