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    Default Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    OK I am going to say something about a person selling Pachislos in my area and if you (the person in question) donÂ’t like what I say or want to contest or explain anything and you are a member of this board then please speak up and set me right. There is a seller of Pachislos in my area of West Bend WI. It is the person that I bought my first machine from. An Azteca for 150.00. No tokens and it could have bean in better shape. I donÂ’t remember how much you wanted for tokens but it was I think almost twice the going price. I was told that he imports them by the container. He has a business of selling car audio equipment and stuff. He never seams to have many machines and most are vary standard and low end machines. I am always told that more will be coming, not unloaded from truck or in customs or such. He said he has another store some ware else. To me if he gets them buy container he should have a lot more. Today I stop in there to see what he has. First thing I see is a machine with a 100.00 sigh on it. Japanese model but get this The top is completely broke off large chunks out of the side an full of over spray from painting a car in the shop and still wants the 100.00. He shows me other machines doesnÂ’t have much. I see a Neo planet wants almost if not more than 400.00. Has customes there and starts talking about them. Now this is ware it starts to get good and I need info on what he told me. He said He bought the rights to selling pre made belly glass inserts and had a few on the wall. Then he tells me that his next shipment is going to come with machines that are already made up as customs from packers football to nas car and the like. He also tells me that he gets these machines from a company out of California called Max7 and whole seller buy the name of Slotusa. He said this company MADE the machines here in the US and sends them TO Japan and China. That they are the biggest manufacture of slots and bigger than DGI. Then tells me he has bought the rights to get these machines from this Max7 already customized and with these customs already on them or that he has the rights to program them. Change the sound, auto stop built in, credit mod built in with it able to go up to 99 credits, a bandit arm of casino quality. They will have the start lever replaced with a button and the three stop buttons will be removed and you the buyer will be able to install a bill excepter. Then he can program them to pay out all at once instead of going though the games. Like a American slot. Even will have the little light on the top of the machine. SO the biggest manufacture in the US and maybe the world. Change sound. Built in auto stop and credit that can go up to 99. Abel to have a bill exciter. The machine he had there was a Double Diamond standard three reel machine, auto stop and pres a button and you got 7 credits. Had payout listed on reel glass as 450 payout. That little light on top. Said he will be selling them for 450.00 dollars and for an extra 50.00 a belly glass of your choosing. They will come also with the bandit arm and the black Formica on the sides. Do you think this manufacture exists? Is he full of cr$p! Or do you think he is legit and can do and get this machine in like this? I had seen the seven credits come up. Anyone can do the auto stop. DidnÂ’t ask to see the inside of machine. DonÂ’t know if it pays out all at once. I donÂ’t tell him all that I know but from what I have said and asked about he can tell I know more than a new person to the this hobby. If he is giving me a line he has to know I can see through it. But maybe I donÂ’t know as much as I thought I did. So you people tell me what you think. Laz.
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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    Sounds like a lot of bull to me. I know slot liquidators sells mod chips that allow for credits to be added so thats nothin special and as for reprogramming the machine... I am very skeptical. I wouldnt believe him. Have you ever been to 7mile fair? There is a guy there that has a huge warehouse and has good prices as well. I would just buy from him and get the credit autostop mod from slot liquidators rather than buying from this yahoo. But again this is just my 2 pennies.
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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    Laz-

    What font is that? It is so small I need a magnifying glass to read it! Sounds like a farse to me!

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    I wrote it up in word and when I pasted it in was real big for me so I made it smaller. It looks good to me on me board. Is it realy to small?

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    The post font size is very small. Even smaller.
    and a few others.

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    alexilla. I know Dave at 7mile. He has bean good to me. I get my whole sale and some personal machines from him. I go to this other guy sometimes just to see what he will tell me and to see how much he over charges for the machines.

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    I changed the font size. It looks huge to me now.

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    Ok. But that definatly sounds like somthing he made up. You should go see him and find out whether all this stuff he claims actually works. Let us know.
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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    Change you're resolution on your computer for more pixels, i think this forum is best viewed at 1028*768 pixls (at least to me anyway).
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    Font size is much better now.

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    Post is much easier to read now. I think that from what I have read at pachitalk there are many very intelligent and informed people here. I would think that if this was possible someone around here would have heard about it and posted it.
    and a few others.

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    First of all Laz, think slowly on this, have you ever seen a "made in USA" tag inside a Japanese product? Have you ever seen a "made in Japan" tag in a USA product? The Japanese make their own slots.
    Licensing for custom belly glass does not exist. It is a way to "americanize" a Japanese product to make it easier to sell in the US for more money.
    Max 7 is a reseller, SlotsUSA is an importer, as is DGI. None of these guys make machines, they resell them.
    If it looks, feels, and plays like an American slot, then ummm IT IS AN AMERICAN SLOT espscially if it says double diamand on it with a 450 payout.

    C'mon Laz use your head, you have been on here since we started this board, meaning you have most likely read almost every post here. Heve you ever heard of any of this on here? Are you gonna listen to some schmuck who is trying to sell you a peice of garbage, or are you gonna listen to the group here who have nothing to gain from you and keep you updated on what is going on in the industry.

    Were you handed a line of cr$p? I will let you figure that one out on your own. But if you think it's all legit, let me know, I got some good prices on a couple of things.

    This is my personal opinion, or of the voices in my head, and are not meant to reflect the opinion of this board.

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    Raise the BS flag, loudly and proudly and get yourself some hip waders cause it's gettin' real deep. Oh, and while you're not buying Pachilos from him, don't buy a used car from him either.
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    Well that double diamond was a a pachislo with stop buttons and I have not seen a credit mod that can put on only seven credits. I have never heard of this Max7. I don't know everything so ma by someone here has seen or knows of a mod to pay out all at once. For the sound, someone is working on it maybe this guy found a way to do it. Do you think I really believe any thing he said?!! How many times have someone put up a thread about something on ebay or some ware else just to show how people are getting ripped off? No I was not even remotely thinking of buying a peace of garbage like this machine. Them like most lies there is usually some elements of truth. Are there any in his story? Can't be much but that is one of the reasons I thought we posted stuff. I did not have much time to check out his story of the machine but I will go back and check out it better and ma by he can entertain me some more.

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    You can buy a real Double Diamond Deluxe...25c slot...with a bill validator (250lbs) delivered to your door (to all 48 states) on a pallet from http://www.slotmachines4less.com/igt.htm for about $875.00 why would anyone want a hacked up imitation in the first place.

    A pashilo is a fun piece of interactive art. Messing them up with arm kits and autostops detracts from what they are. If you want Vegas buy Vegas if you want Japanese buy Japanese.

    This vendor should be educating the public about what a Pashilo really is rather than misinforming them. Isn't there some kind of consumer protection law....that would bar this guy from selling these things under false pretenses....on the other hand George Kastansa (sp?) was once quoted as saying "ITs not a lie if you believe it" ... so maybe hes just a smuck....but it still doesn't sit right to have someone out there flogging stuff falsly ?? is there a way to send this guy a letter from Pa****alk voicing our collective concerns....or better yet find out who he is getting his source from and having them cut him off. I am sure they don't want this stuff being flogged falsely either.

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    Well, as far as the sound mod goes... Yes, I have been working on it off and on for the past several weeks. As soon as I finish it, you guys will be the first to know about it. Looking at the header files in the sound layouts screams japanese authors, not american authors. The names alone gives that much away, not to mention the chips that are interfacing with them have no american translated versions. Made in the US and shipped to asia? I don't buy it.

    There are other ways to mod the sound other than the method I am testing. However, it requires that you create your own soundboard and handle all the logic the original one does for you. Maybe that is what they have done if there is any truth in what this guy has told you.
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    :bsflag:
    My only advice is don't put a down payment on one of these custom machines.
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    I stopped back in today. Things change as the days go buy and the wind blows. Now this is what he said. I asked about the manufacturer and he didn't budge. The machines are made as pachislos here in the us and sent to Japan to be used in the parlors. Then he gets them back in a container just like everyone els looking and playing like a pachislo. Then he payed 50000.00 thousand to the manufacture, this Max7 for the rights and software to reprogram them. Sounds,credits,auto stop,full payout like an American machine template for making new graphics. Now this is what I seen. I looked inside machine. Extra reel stop board with auto stop chip in place. My mistake on the credit. It already had 7 credits on yesterday. No credit mod on the machine he showed me. Graphics all hand made. Look OK but can tell. Then he said that the machine he told me was all set up was not, just a pachislo with graphics changed for 450.00. The other mods will be fifty bucks each. Sound 50, credits,auto stop 50,graphics other than the ones he made up50, bandit arm50 and with basic machine he will laminate sides. No mentions of tokens. YES we need a bigger BS FLAG! If it wasn't so pachetic I would have doubled over laughing.

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    Default Re: Have I bean handed a line of cr$p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus
    The other mods will be fifty bucks each. Sound 50, credits,auto stop 50,graphics other than the ones he made up50, bandit arm50 and with basic machine he will laminate sides.
    Wow, that is good if he has completed the change the sound modification.
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