Extracting a Modern pachinko from a computer-controlled cabinet Computer Pachi

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I have a light on the Evangelion I discovered - Main board - marked LD1.

It flashes on start-up, then goes steady afterwards.

Anyone?

[alphaminor]

Mine does the same thing, looks to be normal

[Chumsize]

Uh... and I was "out of pocket" for a couple days. I'll buy some parts... but its a shame. Just got two frame manuals in the mail today...

Wish I could have stopped the slaughter.


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sorry for upsidedownness... trying to post in a hurry to save a machine...

YES... I can scan these, ya dingleberries...

[Drunkenclam]

I'm sure it is probably something simple. But its finding it I hope it all comes together in the end. Look of it as a large paperweight and not a lose. Just for the mean time. I think its damge or cut wire from the shooter knob to the circuit board on the back of the motor. I'd undo the small screw that hold the knob in place (on the underside of the shaft behind the knob and before the frame if like the lumina) and remove it from the front of the machine and make sure that the wiring goes all the way from the knob to the 3 pin plug that goes into the board without any damage or alterations.

When I removed an auto play from the Ice age cel, It hadn't been done very well, No cables soldered, Just wrapped together and covered with tape. if any of those 3 wires are faulty, The shooter will not work. I don't like the look of those spare white wires you have shown in you picture from the 8th March

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Here's the shooter undone and the wires to the back, and into the plug.

The plug fits in OK, but was out just for this video.

P.s. all these videos can be viewed at 480p if you need (just choose the quality in YouTube

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Here's the back with plugs in...

[Drunkenclam]

This is going to sound daft, but where is the lead that plugs the motor into the circuit board ? (the second white socket on the board)

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This is going to sound daft, but where is the lead that plugs the motor into the circuit board ? (the second white socket on the board)

Ahhh...I just had a look at my other working shooter handle on the Dead Agressor and you're right - the whole plug to that second white socket is missing!!!

No wonder... how did that happen I ponder? Who knows what these machines were doing before they got sold to me (some working, some not very likely)...

Hmm.. so what can I do now?

[Drunkenclam]

I have a spare motor assembly for a lumina. Thats got the lead on it, I can post it to you. The motor and board look the same. It might be the same one. Its worth checking with the one from Dead aggressor.


Oh as for the 3 pin plug from the shooter. The white and the black wire is a open circuit when the motor works. If the stop button is pressed or the shooter is not turned the ciruit is closed. The green wire is onnected to the ground ring.
If you are getting a ground signal and the wiring to the switch is damaged or broken, That will make the shooter contantly fire. But as you said it stops if you press the button. It might be a the ground ring by passed and the shooter knob not returning fully.

Again with the Lumina, The stop button is in, When you turn the knob a little, The button pops out.
Easy test. Unplug the 3 pin plug from the shooter, Does the motor still fire on power up?

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OK - treat me like I'm stupid because when it comes to this stuff, I am.

You're saying you have a spare motor assembly for a Lumina frame, which the EVA is? What should I be checking on the Dead Agressor that proves something?

The shooter that fires on start-up is the Dead Agressor, not the EVA. The EVA's only issue is the shooter not working at all (and we now know why that is, thank you).
So are you saying that I should disconnect the Dead Agressor's 3-pin plug at start-up and see what happens?

cheers

[Drunkenclam]

Sorry. My keyboard skills are dead today
I do have a spare lead. But lets not get into international postage just yet Lets try to check it first. Also for some reason I thought you had a newer eva. My mistake


Part1
I would disconnect the 3 pin plug on the dead aggressor, then turn it on. If the shooter motor doesn't fire then the fault is either in the shooter knob its self or the wires to the shooter knob.
If it still fires, then there is probably a fault with circuit board on the back of the shooter motor.

Part2
forget the above.

Take the wire from the dead aggressor machine that goes between the motor and the circuit board, and stick it in the eva machine (if it fits)
Then test.

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Part1
I would disconnect the 3 pin plug on the dead aggressor, then turn it on. If the shooter motor doesn't fire then the fault is either in the shooter knob its self or the wires to the shooter knob.
If it still fires, then there is probably a fault with circuit board on the back of the shooter motor.

Did this, thanks. The shooter on the Dead A is ok though. It's the error meesage that is persistent and won't leave..

Part2
forget the above.

Take the wire from the dead aggressor machine that goes between the motor and the circuit board, and stick it in the eva machine (if it fits)
Then test.

And how exactly would one do this?

[Drunkenclam]

And how exactly would one do this?

The plug on the motor should just pull out as its held in place by being a tight fit. Go in with some needle nose pliers or tweezers. and pull it out. The circuit board end unclips.
Then take the lead and plug it in the eva

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Cheers for the photo.

Do I get to that section of the shooter from the front, or the back.

If from the back, do I need to remove other components first?

I told ya... I'm a dummy, and no DIYer.

The good news appears to be, if I can get this connected and it works OK, all I'll need is a replacement plug
(rather than the whole shooter assembly) to get this working 100%!

And that shouldn't be too hard to obtain as a spare...

[Drunkenclam]

Not near a machine at the moment. But from memory you should be able to get to it from the rear by putting your hands behind the circuit board. Or it might be easier to undo the (3 I think) screws that hold the circuit board to the motor. The lead should just pull out of the motor.

[Drunkenclam]

Here's a pic of the lead out of the motor

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OK, beautiful.

I undid three screws as you directed and loosened the circuit board enough to get to the plug and undo it.

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Then I did the same on the Evangelion, and put the new cable into that machine (you can see the spliced wire for the computer controlled IC that would have told the machine to shoot on coin entry).

Great news - the shooter works fine and the machine performs all its functions beautifully!
Bad news - it won't stop shooting. I can alter the power of the stroke as normal, but I cannot stop it shooting constantly, like I could at least do on the Dead Aggressor.

hmm...

[Drunkenclam]

Unplug the 3 pin lead from the other side and see if that stops it. If so if you have a continuity checker on a volt meter. See if the white and black or connected. Then press the stop button and see if you get a change in signal. As above. The white and black is from the stop button on the shooter.

[Drunkenclam]

Working off iPhone. What's the white and black lead connected to the loom. Mine doesn't have that

Oh I reread post. I see. Went to the computer system.
Is the other end connected to anything

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Unplug the 3 pin lead from the other side and see if that stops it. If so if you have a continuity checker on a volt meter. See if the white and black or connected. Then press the stop button and see if you get a change in signal. As above. The white and black is from the stop button on the shooter.

Working off iPhone. What's the white and black lead connected to the loom. Mine doesn't have that

Oh I reread post. I see. Went to the computer system.
Is the other end connected to anything

I don't own, nor know what a volt meter even looks like my dear helper from across the pond. But I appreciate your extended belief in my meagre skills!



No, the other end of the spliced wire in the loom is not connected to anything (check Photo 1 from a PC).