Sanyo versus Nichijin DX

[SteveFury]

I might be picking up another pachinko tomorrow and I have to choose between the two. They are from Craigs list.

The seller for the Sanyo states: "I've had it for over 30 years, needs restoring and new glass."
The seller for the DX states: "Nishijin Super DX with front Glass. Needs a little work to get going. Comes with 100 balls"



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They are about the same asking price, and assuming they are both complete and in about the same general condition (unrestored), which would you choose?

I am in the process of contacting both sellers.

[SteveFury]

Looks like the Sanyo's chrome is in better condition.

[mxfaiman]

It is really up to you. Both are decent machines. I'll give you a short list of what I think about each.

Sanyo: always have nice background, not as common as a Nishijin, Comet II's always have some issue, more color on things

Nishijin: Common machine, The one pictured has many pockets which makes it fun to play (I have one of those), usually not as nice as other brands, not many issues they are basic machines.

that is my brief opinion about each. But like I said it is all up to you.

[SteveFury]

I'm strongly leaning tward the Sanyo. I talked to the seller and hope to pick it up tomorrow afternoon for a good price. Is it a Comet II? If so, what common issues might I expect with this model?

Here's a closer picture of the playfield:

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[Moparformances]

Comet machines seem to need a bit more cleaning... the pivot points seem to get jamed up with dirt..

great machines.. i would pic the Comet as well

[naha13]

I really like the Sanyo's for their more colorful background colors. The Comet II's have an issue with the payout see saw sticking, but it's a minor problem and easily remedied. It may take a combination of freeing up the pivot point and possibly adding a small counter weight to make the payouts work 100% of the time.

[Rival]

Yeah, I can echo mxfaiman's sentiments.
The Sanyos tend to hold their playfield colors better, and are often far more colorful on their plastic. But they tend to be more problematic mechanically.
The Nishijins are usually more fun to play, but the playfields don't hold up for crap. Mechanically reliable, and easy to find replacement parts.

It comes down to which is more important: display or play. Both can be made to do both, but each is easier in one arena.

[JACKSJE4]

I personally would go for the Sanyo. I find they are easier to work on and restore, and once cleaned up and the pivot point issue fixed, they are a very reliable machine. As said here, they are less common and more colorful than the Nishijin.

[mxfaiman]

Personally I would go for the Nishijin. Due to the fact that it has 14 pockets on it. which makes it fun to play. plus the cell on that one looks to be in good shape. Then again I am Mr. Nishijin seeing I own close to 50 of them.

[mxfaiman]

nice buy.

Looks like it is all there with no damage. The only issue I can see is that it is dirty but that is an easy fix.

[SteveFury]

Sorry, I wanted to do some adjustments to the post and it seemed I needed to delete it to do so.

Anyway, I went and got my "new" Sanyo this afternoon. It looks complete except the missing glass and it came with 123 usable balls, 22 good slingshot ammo.

I am looking forward to this project:

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Can anyone estimate the year of manufacture of this?

[JACKSJE4]

Congrats!! That is a beauty of a machine and very colorful too! She should clean up very nicely.

[Moparformances]

looks like the date is in the greensticker of your last pic.. cant make it out...

there should be a number in there somewhere 53 53 someting like that...

nice looking machine
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after all that talk its not even a comet II machine

[SteveFury]

looks like the date is in the greensticker of your last pic.. cant make it out... there should be a number in there somewhere 53 53 someting like that...

The red, yellow and green stickers only contain Japanese lettering without any numbers. The only numbers that appear is the "250" in the top silver stickers and what appear to be phone numbers in the long image on the lower part of the sticker.

I've been very busy with my new machine. I really want the cell to be white not drab-yellow so I'm replacing it. I've removed almost all the parts from the back and front for a complete overhaul. Looks can be deceiving. The staples, screw heads, cotter pins etc show only little signs of corrosion- at least what's visible at first. But everything that could corrode has done so quite badly inside the wood. Every screw, every staple etc has fought me to the last, even the tiny phillips head screws that fasten the various playfield items. Most of the screws I just pulled out with a pliers after raising the heads enough to grab them.

But I won the battle, and after 7 hours of disassembly I am ready to clean things:

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Apparently if a ball drops down the top center pocket, the two outside tulips open. I think that is really very cool and I can't wait to get this machine back in service !

[pachiwall]

Wow! I'm still working up the guts to do that!

[Steve Cebu]

Can't wait to see pics of the reassembly.

[Moparformances]

The red, yellow and green stickers only contain Japanese lettering without any numbers. The only numbers that appear is the "250" in the top silver stickers and what appear to be phone numbers in the long image on the lower part of the sticker.

now ya have me stumped

can ya post a straight and closer pic of the red, yellow, green sticker..

[SteveFury]

now ya have me stumped
can ya post a straight and closer pic of the red, yellow, green sticker..

Here is some closer pics of the ID's:

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I got busy last night cleaning the first assembly... I'm not sure what exactly this device is called, it's not really a seesaw like my Nichijin has. Jackpot cache unit perhaps?

Anyway I had some good luck cleaning it with automotive car wash soap, Brasso and paste (bees) wax. And A LOT of elbo grease. Here's a before and after pic:

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I had done some research on the Comet II's and the usual problems they have a few days ago before I bought this Sanyo. This may not be a Comet II (I don't know, it doesn't bear the name anywhere) but I am thinking it may be related to it, possibly a predecessor because the mechanisms are extremely similar.

For example, the jackpot seesaw regulator unit looks exactly the same as Comet II, even down to the problematic pivot of the reset arm above it.

I've already started fixing things on the large plastic main frame. It took me a couple hours scrubbing to get the frame clean in the tub. I hope to have the whole plastic frame cleaned and reassembled in a few days.

[JACKSJE4]

I'm not sure what exactly this device is called, it's not really a seesaw like my Nichijin has. Jackpot cache unit perhaps?

Many here refer to that as the Jackpot Payout Mechanism. Your cleaning job is top-notch!!

If your machine was a Comet II, it would have an embossed "Comet II" on the plastic in the back. The Comet II mechanics are essentially the same as the other model Sanyo machines with only subtle differences, such as the lights and switches.

[mxfaiman]

No offense to you but seeing you are replacing the cell you should have gone with the Nishijin and replaced it with a new cell that you liked.

Anyways looks like your doing a good job on the cleaning.

By the way I found the date mopar is talking about. on your machine it is 50 which means that it was built in about 1974. (and it was on the green sticker just a little faded. Right above the red font if you want to find it.)