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    Default Re: Custom Ball Lifter (with worm method)

    Acoording to my experience, if your ball lifter is working 6 hours and more non stop, without a jam, then you more or less made it. Fill the tray with balls, take a tube that is leading the transported balls down in the tray again and let it run :-) And I really mean 5 to 6 hours. Two hours doesn't mean anything :-) Seriously. Pachinko balls are beasts.

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    Agreed. As previous stated. Its the balls going into the motor assembly seems to be the biggest sticking point.
    For yours I think running at the 12v is too fast and the original 5v looks like a good running speed. Could you put an idler gear in, and then drop the ratio to 2:1. Then run it at 12 v.


    Keep up the good work. It looks great.
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    I would love somebody to remake and sell the Silk Drive one I have seen! It's faster and QUIETER than anything I have seen...
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    Agreed, that silk drive lifter i got is really quiet. And I can help but think that it's so much easier to make than the gear lifters...
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    I'm working on one with no moving parts.
    Just after a high voltage output with varible frequency to connect up to the lifting tube.
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    Day 10 (~4 hours):

    Let's finish the lift shaft!
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    Finally soldering work is done...

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    Let's screw it on the place! I use small screws for the copper wire part.

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    When testing the worm run, the motor is already stopped. Below the copper wire is too much against the worm part.
    Also i must bend all copper holders to avoid contact with worm wheel.

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    De block below is sanding again down for copper wire. Bend the copper wire ends so it can keep in place at end of the block.

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    Same for big block above. Now it's better.

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    Now i can screw all on the place. I checked every time the free worm wheel run. Where i still see and hear noise, i bend the copper holders until it's not making some more noise.

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    Adding middle copper guide wire. This avoid the balls falling off from the lift.
    Now it's finally completed. Story continues in last next post...

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    The lift shaft is completed. I have now made video of the test run. See below.



    This is final post. You can now give some comments.
    Tomorrow i make ball path between collect tray and lift shaft, and then the electronics for motor control.

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    This is really awesome
    You're one of the first to show a completely working lifter (if i'm not mistaken) And in such a short amount of time...
    I hope you get the ball collector in a smooth working order and wish you good luck with it on your anime expo. If Almelo were a bit closer to Belgium, i would attend
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    This looks REALLY good! I've been following this thread from the beginning.

    Thank you for showing all of the steps along the way.

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    Now Day 11 story. Working approx. 6 hours.

    I have build the ball guide path between catch tray and lift shaft. But i discovered some problems in angle ball guide path, it's too low. I added extra piece plate wood below catch tray, and the angle is better. The balls rolls now without much problems down to lift shaft.
    The insert hole for lift shaft is also fixed. The loop video is added soon at the end of story. :-)

    Now lets see what i have done...
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    Batteries are nice to bend copper wires. Baby and Mono battery.
    The curves are perfect here.

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    Last edited by mrdummy; 04-25-2011 at 05:25 PM.

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    Adding U-curves to keep copper wires in place. With normal electric tube. (~16mm size)

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    Adding now 2 wire lines, i use here bend tools AA battery and cleaning spray bottle. Two perfect curves

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    When testing ball rolling, i discovered the angle is too low. Here one ball won't roll down.

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    To solve the problem, i must make the angle bigger. Here i add one piece plate wood below the catch tray, to make it a bit higher.
    Now the angle is much better. The balls rolls now better down.

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    Also the insert plate is under take: i make the hole a bit bigger.
    Now assemble all parts on the main plate, re-secure the lift shaft again, and continue with wiring ball guide path.
    I do always pre-soldering the wire before i solder it on the place. That makes it easy and fast.

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    Here is example how i do the correct bend wire. With cut tool, i mark the place where i must bend it. (thus not cut!)
    This makes the perfect curves in the ball path without much error.

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    Adding last piece wires in the ball guide path. Now it looks pretty good.

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    Because the ball path can move a bit by pressure, i add two supporters to keep it on the height.
    When done, it's now better supported and it moves almost nothing, thanks to many wires.

    Story continues in next post, and the video is almost done... wait with reactions!

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    Let's see how the ball path is build... :-)

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    6 wires in the path, plus 2 extra wires at the begin because bigger hole by catch tray.

    Now the path is completed, both tray and lift shaft are now connected. We can do the loop test.
    I'm waiting for the video which is almost done...
    (fingers rolling...)

    Ah finally done! I have youtube link
    It's long 4 minute movie clip, but it's loop test and it shows everything! (if you don't see something, wait a bit...)


    This is last post. Now you may give your reactions.
    Tomorrow i start with electronic circuit part, which is last step for the ball lifter.

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    Default Re: Custom Ball Lifter (with worm method)

    I was skeptical at first when you started that this would work but seeing this video I am wondering when you will start mass producing these. Great job! I think you have worked out all the issues that people run into with trying to build these. My only worries now deal with if you will have any trouble with the pressure of 3000 balls in the feed tray pushing at the inlet but with the setup you have it looks like it should work fine.
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    We need to donate some peebers to him. Very nice job! I must say I thought you were gonna put a tube over it and still didn't really get the guide at first but heck yea!.
    I wonder if it can keep up with a heathy jackpot. Might need to bump up the speed. There is another video on youtube I can't believe I never saw it before (said it was uploaded 7 months ago) but it uses the gear stacking method. I am trying to find someone to set me up up with a 2in 14 tooth set-screw D-shaped bore sprocket (basically a 11 or 12mm pitch diameter that is simply rounded out) so I can build one myself!.

    Check out the Video here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBHw6x2Med4

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    Default Re: Custom Ball Lifter (with worm method)

    that might be Pat's video. i know he was working on one last year.

    he hasen't been on here in ages
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