NIshijin A pin missing??

[slawnski]

Hello there fellow Pachitalkers!

I picked up my first Nishijin A model this weekend and though it is very dirty- the playing field is nice and is has fome funky features I dont see on my Daichii and Nishijin B's- namely the opening and closing ladybugs and flowers that are in line with the center feature.

Anyway- I think I have a missing pin in the lower ball rail- I'll attach a picture of the area- it's undert the white cover- if anybody can send a pic of this pin or a description of what it looks like ( long nail?) I would appreciate it.

Okay now as I look at the picture- the pin goes in the hole that is visible just inside the old time beer pull tab looking piece of metal attached to the white plasatic cover.

[Moparformances]

i think all your missing is the other half of the cover... (unless im misunderstanding its should not effect game play)

tak a look at this pic or others in my album and see if this makes sense..

http://www.pachitalk.com/forums/memb...kpot-back.html

[slawnski]

Thanks Moparformances!

under the plastic cover- there is a clear plastic rail that pivots- or maybe it doesn't pivot- there is a hole there- I'll see if I have a better picture of it- with the cover on you cannot see the little rail I am talking about...

Have I mentioned latley how much this site rocks!

[ebb]

Please take a picture with the white cover lifted.
I do have the other half of the cover.
Shoot me a PM if your interested

[ebb]

You asked for pictures
Blame it on Mopar he distracted me

[slawnski]

Exactaly!

Here is the shot from under the cover...

[JACKSJE4]

The pin that is missing is actually a long nail with a flat head that is the pivot shaft for the Jackpot Payout Seesaw. It doesn't have anything to do with the cover above it. You can probably find a replacement nail that will fit in the hole and attach to the plywood backing.

The "pull tab" hardware connects to the plastic cover in ebb's photo above.

Hope this helps!

Jeff

[slawnski]

Sooooo the blue headed pin in Ebbs picture is NEXT to the pin you are referring too right? I posted a better pic of my machine in question- - my setup is just a lillte different- but I assume could still use the cover...
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Mopar- the shut open "function" in your pic- this is to let balls down to the ball container at the bottom of the machine- right? What if you choose to close this chute? Do the balls back up / is there another path they would take? I'm not clear on the function of the chute option.

[JACKSJE4]

Here are some photos from similar machines I restored, both with and without the covers.

Hope these photos clarify.

[JACKSJE4]

the shut open "function" - this is to let balls down to the ball container at the bottom of the machine- right? What if you choose to close this chute? Do the balls back up / is there another path they would take? I'm not clear on the function of the chute option.

The Shut/Open lever is to drain the machine. It should be in the 'shut' position for normal operation and 'open' to drain the machine of all the balls.

[slawnski]

Awesome resoration work on that machine! looks like new!

[Moparformances]

Sooooo the blue headed pin in Ebbs picture is NEXT to the pin you are referring too right? I posted a better pic of my machine in question- - my setup is just a lillte different- but I assume could still use the cover...
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Mopar- the shut open "function" in your pic- this is to let balls down to the ball container at the bottom of the machine- right? What if you choose to close this chute? Do the balls back up / is there another path they would take? I'm not clear on the function of the chute option.

see if this clears things up ... its still down loading might be a faw minuts to finish

YouTube - Model A jackpot

if ya have anymore questions just ask

[slawnski]

That was PERFECT!

You sir, are awesome!!!

[slawnski]

ok- cleaned up the works last night- found a finihs nail to use as a pin- got everything assembled and the payout lever will not completely return after it dumps the winning ball- it take s quite a bit of upward pressure to get the arm ( the one with the lillte cup on it for the winning ball to ride down on) back into position- I tried shifting the fulcrum housing thing a bit to see if that makes a difference but I couldn't make it work right- the lower lip of the ball trough that tilts to pay out hits the bottom of the feeder trough before the lever arm engages...


Any ideas??

[slawnski]

Here is a shot of the entire back- I'm thinking the previous owner had some issues with the payout mechanism as well- thus the lost cover and missing pin...

[JACKSJE4]

First question: does the Jackpot Payout Mechanism (JPM) pivot freely on the finish nail you used? There cannot be any friction whatsoever.

If it pivots freely on it's own, the next test is to see if the long arm (that the winning ball pushes down) is rubbing even slightly on any of the plastic pieces. If it touches anything there will be enough friction to affect operation.

The next thing I would look at is the pivot points on all of the linkage parts that connect the long arm to the JPM. Maybe there is some friction on those pins/cams that is causing enough drag to affect operation. I would take the linkage apart and polish the cams with a metal polish.

Give those suggestions a try and see if it resolves your issue.

Jeff

[slawnski]

I'll look over all those things tonight- maybe go with a smaller nail but I think it moves freely- it seems like the JPM trough engages the stationary part of hte feed rail before hte lever arm engages the plastic "hook" I'll go through it all tonight once again- thanks for the advice- I'll keep you guys posted on the progress!

[Moparformances]

if ya need another vid let me know... i can load it with balls and cycle a few rounds..

making the vid is easy... waiting for them to download SUX

[slawnski]

Mopar,

I would appreciate that- it'll give me somrthing to shoot for as far as the movement action required- and who knows maybe I'm not looking at this the right way- a video is worth at least 10,000 words!

[Moparformances]

brb


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