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    Default Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    There is a master locksmith where I work so I had him look at the lock off one of my Vintage Nishijin in hope to have a key made. He looked at the lock and told me that it was a magnetic lock and you can only get keys made if the lock is licensed to you. The lock works with magnetic places along the key with the north and south poles in a set order so the same poles push the sping loaded magnetic pins back to release the locking mechanism so the key can turn. The number stamped on the lock gives the pin configuration. Unfortunately the pins on my locks fell out before I got the polarity of the pins, but the placement of the pins are in a plastic tapered sleeve along the top of the lock. There are 5 pin locations along the top on the lock for pins but only three are used. You can acess it by unscrewing the 2 screws in the back and you should be able to slide it out. The spring-loaded pin configuration front to back on locks stamped 5 are 1, 2, and 5 and locks stamped 4 are 1, 3, and 5. When I get more info I will post. Until then I am just going to remove the spings and magnetic pins and use a blank key.
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    That's pretty smart! I'd love to see a photo of a key that works... wondering what they actually look like. This lock looks like the ones on my vintage machines. What years are locks like this made?
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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    That would really explain a lot as when I tried to use some picks to open one of my machines and I felt no pins inside just a smooth "slot". I then looked inside with magnification and light and it looked smooth inside. I have been quite confused as to what the deal was with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrkey View Post
    That's pretty smart! I'd love to see a photo of a key that works... wondering what they actually look like. This lock looks like the ones on my vintage machines. What years are locks like this made?
    I have three Nishijin with these type of locks a 1976, 1977, and 1978 one is a model B and two are model C

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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    Over the weekend the locksmith at work made me a master key, that I can change the magnetic pins around in to open any magnetic lock on the Vintage Nishijin pachinko machines. There are 5 slots drilled in the key that you slide the magnets in and out of, once you figure out the position and polarity, the lock opens right up.
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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    Now the question is: Can he make more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus View Post
    Now the question is: Can he make more?
    Yes, what are you willing to pay for one? He is telling me the more he makes at one time the lower the cost. The one in photo is just a prototype for testing.

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    So am I to understand that this 'Master Key' is made with slots and then you have magnets that goes into those slots. Then you insert the key (w/the magnets on them) and open the lock?

    I would be willing to pay $20 or so, provided there are good directions and he could supply a solution to either make a 'master key' so that I could then rekey all my locks to fit the new master. Does this make sense?
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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    locks stamped 1 are 1, 4, and 5

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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    Locks stamped #2 pins are in slots 2, 4, and 5 and after several trys to set the locks to the same, I decided to remove the springs and tumblers and reinstall it back in the machine. This way any Master padlock key will work to open them. My suggestion is to trade locks between members until you have the same number on the locks on all your machines, so the one key will work on all of them. You will need the magnetic tumblers out of one of them to make the key with. Or do what I did and you may want to save the springs and pins, just in case.

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    OK< horribly confused!
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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    Here's what I would like to do...

    Open the lock and disassemble... remove all the tumblers... put back together so the lock is functional but with out tumblers... any key that fits or even a screw driver can open the door.

    Iniitally I thought it would be cool to have a common key or set of keys for the locks.. but the more I have of machines and devices that require keys (coke machine, jukebox, bar top arcade, crane machine, pachislo, etc.) the more I find all the keys to be of a nuisance more than the novelty of it all.

    Thus.. I think I would be better served with freely opening 'locks' where I could retain the tumblers for future use should I decide to sell. Maybe the Antique Archeologist from "Pickers" will come by and I'll make them a deal???

    So.. it's it possible that these locks would work with out any tumblers in them? Eitehr way.. I'd like a price on getting one of the 'pickers'.
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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    the pickers dont seem to go to texas... and they will only give ya half of what they can sell it for...

    put them on ebay and roll the dice

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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    Yes, the lock works perfectly well with all the tumblers & springs removed. With any key that will fit.

    I like to watch Pickers, too. I was kind of hoping that they would come across a pachinko machine so people would get the reality check that they are not rare & worth thousands. But I've seen that they won't even touch a pinball machine! So I think the best place to sell them would be eBay. The best place to buy is Craigslist.

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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    cardwwi, is this person still willing to make more ? Any price quoted yet ? I'd like to put in an order for one if they are reasonable ?

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    I know this thread is old but I thought I would add some info. I have a 1994 King of Baseball (球界王) pachinko by Nishijin and it has a slightly different style lock. It is still a magnetic lock but now it is pressed together with pins so I cannot take it apart to remove the pins and springs to use it free moving! I did try forcing it apart a little but didn't want to break it.

    As you can see it has a number 11 on it also.

    I would love to play around with the "master key" talked about above and could make the metal part but have no idea where I would get magnets that small to insert into it.

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    Here are the photos of a magnetic lock taken apart also the key I had made, and the magnetic tumblers with springs I hope the photos help.
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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    I need help getting one of these locks open. do you think you can make me a few? I'll pay for labor parts and shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carwarr View Post
    I know this thread is old but I thought I would add some info. I have a 1994 King of Baseball (球界王) pachinko by Nishijin and it has a slightly different style lock. It is still a magnetic lock but now it is pressed together with pins so I cannot take it apart to remove the pins and springs to use it free moving! I did try forcing it apart a little but didn't want to break it.

    As you can see it has a number 11 on it also.

    I would love to play around with the "master key" talked about above and could make the metal part but have no idea where I would get magnets that small to insert into it.

    lockback=.jpglockfront=.jpg
    That lock is what most moderns come with. If you have a key for a modern try it. I had the same machine & used the key from my Super Sea story to open it.
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    Default Re: Magnetic locks on Vintage Nishijin

    Quote Originally Posted by subdude View Post
    That lock is what most moderns come with. If you have a key for a modern try it. I had the same machine & used the key from my Super Sea story to open it.
    I have no vintage key. Any chance i can buy a copy off you?

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