A different method of playfield restoration

[Microbus99]

It was kind of odd about the nails. There werent any there but the laminate had holes there. I copied the laminate onto mine and prepunched the holes.

It wasnt until I was putting them back together did I realize I came up short and them remembered abou the missing ones (Newbie manuever). I'm on the hunt for some that are the correct length.

Have you found any?

Thanks for the honest critique Mopar!!!

Later

[mudfud]

hey micro,

I have a few from my daiichi, when I added tulips and took about 4 nails out on each side. PM me your address and I'll send you a couple. how many you need?

also, heavyguitarman found this site for brass escutcheon pins

Brass Escutcheon Pins

he said 16 gauge, he bought 1 1/2 inch, since they didn't have them in 1 1/4 inch

he probably has a bunch if you need. minimum order was 1/2 pound. he used all new nails for his restoration.

this was the original thread

Looking for brass Nails for pachinko machine

[Moparformances]

i have a whole cells worth as well if that helps out too

let me know

the good LT bought a machine that had sever cell flaking.. could not see it in the pic.. then when it arived they had croped the pics to hide the busted front trays.. so i parted it out

[Microbus99]

Wow...Thanks for the reply guys!!

I think if I just got 10 of them (in case I loose one or two) I'll be covered. I've looked at the site that heavyguitar recommended and I may get some of those. I'll PM you guys with my address.

Thanks again.

[Lt Teddy]

Guess this is close to the one you just refinished.

[Microbus99]

Hey Lt.
Yes, the blobs. Is this the same maching that Mudfud just posted. It has that "bonus" deal in the right corner!

The only difference between my cell and this is the addition of a "pink blob" in the lower right part above the tulip on my machine.

This was interesting. When I removed the old plastic laminate there were impressions of additional shapes!! When I removed the lower right tulip there was a hint of pink there. If you looked at the old laminate you could see the impression of the shape but there was no evidence of color ever being there.

There was an additional shape impression under the 2 blobs in the upper left. My only guess is that they were both pink and faded over time. It is hard to belive because there is no evidence of color ever there.

Anyway, I recreated the shape in the lower right corner. I did make a replacement shape for the missing left upper one but didnt like how it looked so I left it out.

Very mysterious!!!

Later, Gordon

[Lt Teddy]

Well I have spent quite a bit of the morning comparing the three. Mudfuds, yours and mine. I find it interesting that each machine starting with Mudfuds has a little different design, tulips and covers. The first has no metal around the tulips but the rest do. I was just thinking maybe they are just changes being made over the evolution of the machine itself.

I do have the piece that runs the star on mine but the string is broken and I am taking it to my Mechanic Mopar ( aka son ) to fix up and clean up.

[digital1]

I am taking it to my Mechanic Mopar ( aka son ) to fix up and clean up.

I always wanted to ask but wasn't sure if there was a relationship there or not.

[luckydog]

Mopar is more like an indentured servant than a son

[mudfud]

This was interesting. When I removed the old plastic laminate there were impressions of additional shapes!! When I removed the lower right tulip there was a hint of pink there. If you looked at the old laminate you could see the impression of the shape but there was no evidence of color ever being there.

There was an additional shape impression under the 2 blobs in the upper left. My only guess is that they were both pink and faded over time. It is hard to belive because there is no evidence of color ever there.

Anyway, I recreated the shape in the lower right corner. I did make a replacement shape for the missing left upper one but didnt like how it looked so I left it out.

Very mysterious!!!

Later, Gordon

hey micro,

how did you make the outline blobs? did you fine cut with an exacto out of the darker paper?

looks like our machines are related. will have to see if my string is there or not...

poor mopar... more work on his birthday?

[Microbus99]

The outlines were done with a pen from a set that my daughter uses for her fashion drawings. I found one about the right shade/value (not perfect) of blue.

I used a very "steady" hand when I did that!!

[mudfud]

wow. you do have a STEADY hand. I would have to cut out a template and trace it...

[Moparformances]

guess the cats out of the bag (thanks pops u said u wouldn't tell )

now back to your regular schedualed pachi repair

[johnnynormal510]

If anyone is Interested, I found a company in Burlingame that prints on acetate. Its called plasti-print.


Unfortunately for me, the design must be done in vector graphics (I.E. Adobe Illustrator). I'm not too well versed in Illustrator, but maybe someone here is.

...Erik

[mudfud]

hey micro.

was wondering if the acetate sheet is showing scratches. a pinball restorer that I met thought it might be too soft, and that mylar would be better.

any thoughts? the acetate is more shiny, I think, but maybe shows scratches more?

I may try the spare mylar that I bought for the PF on the sumo restore, just haven't finished deciding on the graphic yet.

hey johnny, where are you? I miss my pachi friend how much does the place in burlingame charge to print out a pachi cell sized background? will it hold up to ball wear?

[digital1]

You know if you just make a clear cell then you could change the immage behind it any time you want.

A clear cell...where did that idea come from

[emmadog]

Good questions. For what it's worth pinball machines use Mylar on the high wear areas plus acetate is known to yellow over time. Go with whatever ur comfortable with-it's plenty shiny on my PF.

[Microbus99]

Hi Chewy,

Turned out what I used back then is Duralar. What you all have been refering to as Mylar. The common name for this material back when I was in college was Acetate so I'm used to that term. It is 10 mil (super thick) non adhesive. If you look at the original laminate from your machine you'll see that its about 10 mil thick.

So far that machine is flawless. Its at my Mothers place and she plays the heck out of it. Its definitely as good or better then the original laminate. No scratching or wear at all!!

My current project (see my album) is using 5 Mil adhesive Mylar. Its pretty good so far. Not as thick as original but will work in my opinion. I'd much rather have the 10 mil (adhesive) for depth but I havent found it yet (I havent looked that hard either). I also think I've figured out a way to replicate the original process.

Duralar is the brand you want to look for.

Have fun!!!

[mudfud]

looks like TAP plastics carries mylar in rolls. several different thicknesses and sticky and non. if I decide not to use the pinball mylar, I have options.

thanks for the updates!