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    Default A different method of playfield restoration

    Hello Everyone,

    Lets get this out of the way. I'm a Newb. I've been reading everyone's excellent post's for a few weeks now and thought I'd join in.

    I found this Nishjin B at a local Thrift Store while there just looking for old wood furniture for restoring. I couldnt believe my eyes when I saw this guy. My story is like a lot of yours about being around these as a child. I grew up in Hawaii and had many Japanese neighbors, some of which had these awesome machines. That was 35 years ago and had'nt seen one since. so I had to have this one. It definitley wasnt in the best condition and I only paid $25 for it. After a lot research I decided it needed an overhaul.

    I get kind of obsessed with things after I get started on them so consequently I went all the way. I stripped it completely down to the wood and removed the old background/playfield. The pictures I've attached show before, during and after the playfield resto.

    The machine is completley reassembled now and in perfect working condition including sanding down the frame and refinishing it as well as polished every nail, plastic, and chrome piece by hand, and repainting all the plastic jackpot chutes. I just need to readjust the nails. I'll upload photo's of it completed soon but I thought I'd ask everyone's opinion on how this turned out first.

    Thanks for your opinion and hope to have some great chats with you all!!

    Oh, and by the way. I've aquired 8 more machines since this one. Yes, I'm hooked!!

    Gordon Glaser
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    verry nice

    would u please explain what u used to cover the play field..

    a most excelant first post

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    Default Re: A different method of playfield restoration

    first, welcome!

    second, amazing job on that pachi. I can't wait to see the final pictures when it is all done
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    Yes , This is the best playfield restoration to as near as factory as i have ever seen in the last 33 years that i have been in the hobbie . Please tell us how you were able to get the playfield so fantastic looking !
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    Welcome to PachiTalk Gordon

    I am amazed by how 'new' that cell looks, I cannot see the waterstains and the coloured areas look bright and refreshed

    I too would love to know more about how you restored this one

    Fantastic job!!

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    WELCOME!!

    Wow!!

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    Default Re: A different method of playfield restoration

    Welcome!

    A very nice restoration indeed!


    My bet is the new cell is printed on white sign vinyl. Look at a pop machine sometime, the case has a vinyl print on it done with one of these cool (and pricey) vinyl printers. With the nails and playfield pieces removed and the backboard out of the case the cell could be scanned and reproduced with a little work. I spent some time working in a sign shop and this is how I plan to make my own cell designs.

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    Beautiful!!! but yes, I'm afraid you're going to have to give up your playfield secrets!
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    Welcome to the Dark Side!!! Glad to find another Denver area member on the site.

    Along with everyone else on the site, I would also like to hear how you accomplished the cell replacement so perfectly. It is truly an outstanding job!! I also would like to know how much time was invested in the entire restoration process.

    Please, please tell us. Please!!!

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    welcome to PachiTalk Gordon!

    your restoration is amazing! we would definitely love to hear more about it!


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    Hello again guys,

    No its not vinyl sign material. Its actually cut paper under 10mil acetate from an Art Supply store. Jeff, you probably know "Meiningers Art Store"?

    I have a degree in Art and used to use cut paper as one of my media. This is purely an experiment. The next one will be different in the fact that I'll take the finished art and have it copied and printed at the sign shop as well as saved to a digital file.

    So far the acetate is holding up really well. Its easily as thick as the original laminate but a little more flexible. So far this isnt a problem. I used the old playfield laminate as a "template" for the placement of the design elements and the nails.

    I have a crazy amount of time in this thing. I basically come home from work and head to the workshop. I must have at least 50 hours in it so far.

    Thanks so much for the welcome and the comments!!!

    Gordon

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    This restoration is truly amazing. We as a group are all waiting for your next post. Their are so many questions???

    I will leave the questions to the people that do the restorations but I will be waiting to read about how you accomplished this truly amazing feat. Thank you for Sharing..
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    Gordon - I'd like to ask for more details and maybe pictures of the paper, the laminate etc. "in process". If I understand what you've written correctly you've done an amazing job of recreating the play-field with paper cut outs, but you did mention you are a degreed artist, so it makes sense to me. Do you have any pictures with it partially done or the individual pieces?

    I have three vintages that I am restoring and one has more water damage than the others. So far I'm not planning on a complete tear down of any of the machines, but the pictures above may change my mind...combined of course with the Brasso soaked cuts on my hand from polishing the play-field nails without removing them.

    As an engineer, my artistry is mainly confined to straight lines and compass drawn circles, I need lots of help with the artistic stuff.

    Thanks,

    Mike

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    Hi Mike,

    Its funny you mention you're an Engineer. Thats what I do for a living working for Audi of America Product Support. These machines combine the best of both worlds in my opinion. They are art as much as they are mechanical wonders.

    It will take me a little time to put together some more detailed photos for you. There was actually a point where I thought I was screwing everything up and didnt take any photos but I do have some.

    Oh and I devised a great way to remove the nails!! I'll post that soon as well.

    Will post soon!

    Gordon

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    Oh boy Gordon... the masses are screaming "Feed Me"!

    Fabulous job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Microbus99 View Post
    These machines combine the best of both worlds in my opinion. They are art as much as they are mechanical wonders.
    I agree 100%, I think that may be why I'm so fascinated with them. Plus they are just the right level of simplicity vs. complexity vs. rube goldberg.

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    First, unbelievable job. You have raised restoration to another level and with this information, more of us can tackle similar projects. So thanks for sharing. I too am eagerly waiting to see your new method of nail removal and also I have a question. When you separated the playfield plywood from the rest of the machine I can see that all the structural nails are still intact (2nd pic from left). Did you pry the wood apart by using a prybar or similar and just slowly go around the perimeter or is there another technique? I like that method as opposed to having to actually remove the nails.Thanks!
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    Hello Emmadog,

    Removing the nails would have done to much damage. I did pry the board away from the frame and support pieces. Those nails hold "really tight" as they have that "twist" on the end like the brass nails do. I just took my time!!

    I actually removed those nails after I had my new art and acetate in place. They were helpful in keeping everything "lined up" as I put the brass nails back in.

    I replaced those nails with wood screws that have a protective coating as to not rust. It worked quite well.

    The secret to removing the brass nails is a modified "Slide Hammer". I have one that I used years ago when I was a VW Auto Technician. I cut a "T" in the end of it (probably similar to the nail adjusting tool I've read about here) to grab the nail. I averaged 2 good "whacks" with each nail to get them out.

    The secret is out!! Enjoy!!

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    the slide hammer scares me my tape wraped pliers worker really well.. about 1/2 a turn counter clockwise and they slid right out
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    That sounds like a good idea. Need to check that out. Still learning!!! Thanks!

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