Video Slot Odds Change ?

**azlew** · 12-17-2004, 02:10 PM

This question was covered at the other board awhile back but since we seem to have a couple of people on here that have more knowledge than we had before :

Can we change the odds on video LCD slots within our Pachinkos?

If so how ?

Thanks..

**arbycoffee** · 12-17-2004, 03:00 PM

no, i have not read anything that said you could, you are stuck with what it comes from the factory, open uo your nails alittle that will getr you into more bonus rounds.img]http://www.users.qwest.net/~arbycoffee/pachitalk/emoticons/Cartangry.gif[/img]

**azlew** · 12-17-2004, 03:12 PM

I ain't accepting that it isn't possible arby but I know that is what we settled at (at the other place). You can't tell me that with all these new fangled electronic contaptions out there that there isn't away to reprogram these. But I know we went 'round and 'round before on this and I just thought I would throw it up for that there new discussion.

:roll:

**arbycoffee** · 12-17-2004, 03:28 PM

There would be a way, If you Can read the code on the Eprom and rewrite it. You don't realize the Equepment you would need. or at liest access to use. We would need to know their propitory code, fat chance them telling us.

I would say we wpould have a better chance in importing machines than breaking there code and rewriting it to work.

But as always my 2Â¢ worth from an old tattoo man.
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**azlew** · 12-17-2004, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by arbycoffee

There would be a way, If you Can read the code on the Eprom and rewrite it. You don't realize the Equepment you would need. or at liest access to use. We would need to know their propitory code.......I would say we wpould have a better chance in importing machines than breaking there code and rewriting it to work.

I think that is a new idea there :!: Us checking into whether or not it is possible to import in a machine that could change the odds...or would that just be a computer with software?

Anyone else have an ideas on this :?:

**dlowrey** · 12-17-2004, 04:01 PM

I believe that the only way you can change the odds is to bend pins so you spin the wheels more or less often...

**azlew** · 12-17-2004, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by dlowrey

I believe that the only way you can change the odds is to bend pins so you spin the wheels more or less often...

So the Japanese Parlors don't have these hooked up to anything that can control the odds?

arby looks like you're Kugishi "Master Nail Bender" talents are in demand there also :!: I wonder if they have a school there for that :wink:

**arbycoffee** · 12-17-2004, 04:43 PM

It is something that is master to student trained

**Bilko44** · 12-17-2004, 11:26 PM

From what I have been able to decipher from the manufacturer's sites, they offer about three to six versions of each new game. Some will have different odds and others might have a different graphics on the playfield but same odds, and then there's the models that will always interface with the CR(Card Reader) hardware which is mounted above the games in the pachinko parlors.

**pachi_sloter** · 12-17-2004, 11:35 PM

I think I've seen some older machines on the Japanese databases that had three settings listed but now I think they just make different versions of each machine, each with different odds or other specifications, but with only one fixed setting.

Some people still try to make them to pay out more though.
http://www.fukuoka-now.com/news/inde...g=&id=8665
http://www.fukuoka-now.com/news/inde...g=&id=8051

**arbycoffee** · 12-18-2004, 12:00 AM

hey lew, maybe you could contact these guys :grin: :grin:
Fukuoka Police Uncover Pachinko Scam -05/13/2004 16:21
A gang of three Chinese and one Japanese were arrested and indicted in Fukuoka for a novel pachinko scam that netted several million yen from about 30 pachinko parlors in Fukuoka, Saga, and Oita Prefectures over the past year. The gang is accused of breaking into pachinko parlors late at night and stealing the ROM devices in the machines that control the flow of balls. They then allegedly sent the devices to accomplices in the Kanto region, who modified them to produce a higher ball output. The gang then broke into the same pachinko parlors and reinstalled the modified ROM devices into the machines. During each break-in, the burglars carefully repaired their sites of entry to avoid detection. They later sent pachinko-loving Japanese in their employ into the parlors to play those machines. They reportedly limited the day's take to 10,000 yen from a single machine and 50,000 yen from a single shop to avoid suspicion.

Man Arrested for Pachinko Fraud -05/13/2003 19:09
Police in Fukuoka City's Chuo Ward have arrested a 44-year-old man on May 11 for using an electric device commonly called a taikanki to obtain money from a pachinko machine. The device was hidden under the man's clothing, sending a signal to the pachinko machine that made it more likely to give out winnings. The man had stolen about 33,000 yen when he was spotted by one of the pachinko parlor's employees. The illegal use of taikanki has increased in recent months, leading to several arrests in Fukuoka Prefecture including two in Sawara-ku in May.

**azlew** · 12-18-2004, 04:15 PM

So the card reader connect on the newer Pachinkos only is for getting balls and nothing else right? So how do they track wins and losses for each individual machine and if they do happen to do that then would it not be reasonable to wonder that they maybe could hange the internal odds for video slot lcd models at the "master computer" level?

**arbycoffee** · 12-18-2004, 05:21 PM

Sorry Lew, but I think you beating a

on adjusting the odds on the reels. :cry:

**azlew** · 12-18-2004, 05:24 PM

I agree arby I think it is not possible to change the odds via a computer connection to a modern pachinko. Great horse by the way :!:

**Bilko44** · 12-18-2004, 07:00 PM

As I recall, data such as the previous day's number of times the fever round was hit and balls paid and the time since the last fever was hit is all displayed above the game. This is why players will lineup in front of the parlor before it opens because they want to play a particular game they spotted the night before that they felt was "due" to hit.

Remember, as players, we can develop skill getting the balls to activate the bonus spins, but it's still the software program that dictates the frequency of times the fever rounds hit.

Just as we get excited in the US when the Powerball Lottery or Megabucks jackpots haven't hit in a while, the Japanese players feel that a game which hasn't paid out a lot or gone to fever rounds recently is just waiting to be plucked.

What many of the parlors do is let the players use the data to entice more play, but after the parlor is closed, the night shift has their nail benders alter the odds by bending a nail here and there and, thus, keep the odds still in the house's favor by making it more difficult to get the balls into certain pockets.