Pachislo's Now Illegal in Indiana

[Chrisdice]

Lets call on Mystery Inc. to figure out the former member in question.

[luckydog]

or you could try looking under the sea

[johntofva]

I guess it is time for me to get a "snack"...

[pachinut]

Rot roh...

[20sporty02]

ok..ok i got it

[markytoken]

so how did he con you budge? he wasn't in on you being robbed was he?

[gottac]

I don't have a list of states where they are illegal, but a former member of this site who lives there told me that his were taken from him this past week. The reason they were taken, is because they COULD be converted to coin slots with just a little bit of work; therefore they are not legal.

Now see this I do not understand... take a semi-automatic handgun a 9mm for instance, that could be converted to a fully automatic, does that mean that they will band them??

Sometimes the world just does not make sense to me Geez.

[FTKServices]

gottac, yes in NJ they have.

[Tulsa]

This really is nothing new for Indiana, as posted by our dearly departed moderator Gwarzin in January of 2005, who also lived in Indiana.

PachiTalk

Believe me folks, this opinion which is 3 years old is still probably much more valid than the source of this drivel.

[derbyboy]

making crap up as they go along.

Which former member do we know who is good at making crap up as they go along?

A Scooby Snack for the first correct answer.

[doug]

maybe some one can make heads or tales of the law
http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/cod.../ar45/ch5.html

[logicprobe]

IC 35-45-5-1 Version b
Definitions
Note: This version of section amended by P.L.227-2007, SEC.64. See also preceding version of this section amended by P.L.2-2007, SEC.377.
Sec. 1. (a) The definitions in this section apply throughout this chapter.
(b) "Electronic gaming device" means any electromechanical device, electrical device, or machine that satisfies at least one (1) of the following requirements:
(1) It is a contrivance which for consideration affords the player an opportunity to obtain money or other items of value, the award of which is determined by chance even if accomplished by some skill, whether or not the prize is automatically paid by the contrivance.
(2) It is a slot machine or any simulation or variation of a slot machine.
(3) It is a matchup or lineup game machine or device operated for consideration, in which two (2) or more numerals, symbols, letters, or icons align in a winning combination on one (1) or more lines vertically, horizontally, diagonally, or otherwise, without assistance by the player. The use of a skill stop is not considered assistance by the player.

Seems to me they specify skill stop right there, and it's not considered to be 'assistance'... therefore, an 'electronic gaming device'.

However, I'm not a lawyer.
And I'm certainly not a judge.

BUT... it would seem to me that this would be the LEAST of this person's worries, considering the accusations of interstate fraud we've heard about.

[Tulsa]

While it references skil stop, you still have to factor in and what wasn't referred to and is probably in another statue is the "thing of value". Since we all know a skil stop can be converted to accept real money, it would easily be illegal in states that don't allow slot machine sales.

However, like many states, as long as they don't produce a thing of value and a token in not deemed to be a thing of value as is a free spin, they become perfectly legal, as they are in Oklahoma. This is what Gary was referencing in his old post.

[bfree]

scooby dooby do!!

[Tulsa]

I can only regurgitate last nights dinner at that thought.

[dattia]

http://image.com.com/tv/images/proce...6b/a3/1631.jpg scooby dooby do!!

Isn't that Spongebob...I never did quite get that

[bfree]

I think because no spine is present in either??

[compirate]

While it references skil stop, you still have to factor in and what wasn't referred to and is probably in another statue is the "thing of value". Since we all know a skil stop can be converted to accept real money, it would easily be illegal in states that don't allow slot machine sales.

However, like many states, as long as they don't produce a thing of value and a token in not deemed to be a thing of value as is a free spin, they become perfectly legal, as they are in Oklahoma. This is what Gary was referencing in his old post.

I'm sure it's referenced in the law somewhere, but aren't a lot of arcade games therefore illegal? Coin pushers, crane games, and a lot of vending machines I've dealt with! We need to fight these Dave & Busters/Chuckie Cheese Den of Iniquities!

Really the only big deal is, is that the state isn't getting a cut somehow and they don't like that.

[Sid]

I think because no spine is present in either??

[luckydog]

A few years ago the sherriff's office raided and shut down all the cherrymaster places here in Bradenton that were giving out gift cards for wins. they took all the machines also.

In Sarasota which is in a different county places are still open and in business.

it all boils down to if they aren't getting their cut it's illegal.