Are these machines considered vintage?

[rdmkr1]

Look at the sun sticker to find age,,,,but I dont consider any lectric ball shooter to be (vintage)
Manual spring loaded arm shooters are how I judge em
Nice machines though,it looks like the kyo is when they started changing them up from man to elec.
Is anything else electric on the kyo,besides shooter and lights?
No ashtray,,I may have one round here somewhere

[baker7598]

Look at the sun sticker to find age,,,,but I dont consider any lectric ball shooter to be (vintage)
Manual spring loaded arm shooters are how I judge em
Nice machines though,it looks like the kyo is when they started changing them up from man to elec.
Is anything else electric on the kyo,besides shooter and lights?
No ashtray,,I may have one round here somewhere

The kyo has nothing else elec besides what you said as far as I've been able to tell. Its not giving me any prize ball when I win them.

[logicprobe]

Vintage?

Yes to the first... no to the second. I would agree with LD about the dating on the second one, and IMO 'vintage' is manual shooter. The second one certainly has more electronics than just the shooter... the LED displays for one, and that's probably a small CRT screen in the middle?

(Eddie... NICE grab! It DOES look like a single shot machine... no ball feed tray, just a return. And if you're running out of room... there's plenty of that left here in PA)

[baker7598]

Vintage?

Yes to the first... no to the second. I would agree with LD about the dating on the second one, and IMO 'vintage' is manual shooter. The second one certainly has more electronics than just the shooter... the LED displays for one, and that's probably a small CRT screen in the middle?

It is a CRT screen but there are no LED displays. What is this sun sticker they're talking about to date it? You said I can date the second one that way but not the first right?

[logicprobe]

It is a CRT screen but there are no LED displays.

Look in your pic, right above the Y&O.
See the three LED displays? (888)
These are used for parlor credits, but they ARE LEDs.
It's electronic... plain and simple. The CRT itself is a give away to that.
And surely there are circuit boards on the back of it, not just mechanics.

However, that said... I guess 'vintage' is in the eye of the beholder.
But I personally wouldn't consider a seven year old electronic pachinko machine 'vintage'.