What is Panchinko/Samuraislot doing now!

[compirate]

Yeah, I pretty sure that gibisans bidder is legit.

Just to be on the safe side, Compirate, ARE YOU SHILLING FOR CF? :lol8:

I wouldn't do that! I bid on machines I'd like to have a duplicate case for. I see they have at least one auction with that 'hidden bidder' thing (bidder 1, bidder 2, etc...), an easier way to hide shilling, I guess. Don't they have to pay fees based on the winning bids? Can't see how they'd get ahead if their shills are winning.

I'm gonna hate to see them go.......

[johnnyabc]

Don't they have to pay fees based on the winning bids? Can't see how they'd get ahead if they're shills are winning.

I'm gonna hate to see them go.......

They can do a mutual withdrawal and collect back the final value fees. They just have to pay the initial listing fee. Since they start most off at .99 it is not much at all. They may be also doing second chance offers for the next highest bidder.

From their auction page:

Payment Method
You have 3 days to make a payment, otherwise we will offer to second chance offer.

[Tulsa]

This was just such a massively stupid thing for them to do.

[compirate]

They can do a mutual withdrawal and collect back the final value fees. They just have to pay the initial listing fee. Since they start most off at .99 it is not much at all. They may be also doing second chance offers for the next highest bidder.

Any way to find out how many have been withdrawn?

I haven't gotten any second chance offers, and I was one behind more than once.

[johnnyabc]

Any way to find out how many have been withdrawn?

I haven't gotten any second chance offers, and I was one behind more than once.

Probably the only time you will get a second chance offer is if the shill bidder is the winner and the price of the second bidder is acceptable to CF. If a legitimate bidder wins they will probably not send a second chance offer unless the price of the machine has been bid up to a very high bid.

As far as mutual withdrawals, I am not sure you can see that. Feebay can check that out but I don't think we have access to that info.

[sailorpatp]

They can do a mutual withdrawal and collect back the final value fees. They just have to pay the initial listing fee. Since they start most off at .99 it is not much at all.

Epay would catch on fast if they do that very often.
They do log IPs of bidders and after they get a complaint, they will go look at the logs to see if the bids are from the same IP. The first time someone gets caught, they send a warning and make you take a training video.
I would think that this is flagrant and repetitive , so I wouldn't be surprised to see them get a 30 day suspension.
I doubt Epay will NARU them. Money talks.

[Delgrieve]

This is Unfreakinbelieveable...

Thanks for the heads up guys!

[jetedrow]

Take a look at the high bidder on this auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/CASINO-BISTY-PIN...QQcmdZViewItem

[Delgrieve]

Popeye pachislo is bid over 200.00 and a private auction, no bidder info!

Any auctions that go over $200 automatically go to the "Private" bidding numbers. I guess it is to protect the buyers but I don't like it.

[arbycoffee]

shill-bidding-by-samuraislot-and-pachinko( 0 ) Cool A super man againist Shill bidders

[fronzdan]

This is hilarious! I've suspected they've been shilling for a while now. At first it was minimal and "smart". You'd see a new user show up and bump up one of their auctions from time to time. But lately, especially with that stopexpress user, they've gone completely off the deep end. Not only is stopexpress only bidding on and winning CF auctions, they are often winning a few machines a day. Even the worst Pachitalk addict doesn't buy THAT much.

Panchinko bidding on their own auctions (didn't think ebay would even allow that) is obviously a big goof - someone forgot which log-in they were using. I suspect they'll go bye bye for a while. DUMB!

Edited to add:
Oh I see, panchinko bid on samuraislot's auction. I didn't think they'd let a user bid on his own auction.

[arbycoffee]

this crap goes on, on Yahoo Japan Auctions all the time

[scooby_doo_m2002]

[sparks911]

Yeah, I pretty sure that gibisans bidder is legit.

Just to be on the safe side, Compirate, ARE YOU SHILLING FOR CF? :lol8:

Ok! I'm guessing I got 1 wrong! gibisans must be Compirate?
If it is I apologize, Compirate/gibisans!
I should have figured at least 1 would be an addicted pachi person!
Well, anyways, they are really blatantly shill bidding!

[Lddrizzt]

Email I got from Fleabay today.

Thank you for contacting eBay in regard to shill bidding.

Thank you for sending us information about your situation with
samuraislot.

eBay is very concerned about any potential violation on our site. We
have investigated your report and have taken appropriate action. Our
actions may include issuing a warning, a temporary or indefinite
suspension, or terminating the eBay membership.

To protect the privacy of all our members, we can't discuss the details
of an investigation with another member. I hope that this assures you
that your account information will also remain private.

It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing eBay.

Sincerely,

Wallace

eBay Trust & Safety

[drcrippen324]

so they got a slap on the wrists as there auctions are still there
good old ebay

[sailorpatp]

All their auctions are gone!

[Lddrizzt]

Guess they got a hard slap on the wrist.
The power of PachiTalk once again.

[sailorpatp]

Lddrizzt
Corporate Destroyer
I love it!

[arbycoffee]

Lddrizzt
Corporate Destroyer
I love it!

You say that with a Smile Mister. . . . .

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