Pachinko Connectors

[dlowrey]

On the back side of my Dragon Chance pachinko machine, on the upper right corner, is a series of quick connect connectors:
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On the ball box next to it is a label:


I am assuming this is for connecting the machine to the parlor's computerized management system.

Is this on other machines as well?

I have figured out that the second pair from the left (the yellow ones) connect to a switch that closes whenever the front door is opened.

Any ideas what the others are for? The pair on the right that is marked as an input is really intriguing.

It would be great if the others were balls in and balls out. Then we could hook up counters.

I will be investigating this more and will report here if I come up with anything.

[arbycoffee]

Nothing like that on my LOTRings

[azlew]

I don't have this on my Fever Arabian Nights either (by Sankyo).

Looks interesting tho..

[Firewire]

Nor on my Heiwa Batman!

I wonder if that panel allowed some sort of relay to a central control center?

[Tulsa]

Nor my Batman or Thunderzone...

Try hooking up a speaker to one of the input/outputs following polarity. If you blow something though, I didn't suggest this.. :twisted:

[dlowrey]

Try hooking up a speaker to one of the input/outputs following polarity.

Even though they look like speaker connectors, I don't think they are. The wires from it don't go to the Audio board (which the wires from the speakers in the machine do...)

[Bilko44]

My Dragon Chance is identical to yours. Could they be connections to numeric displays the parlors place above the games showing stats such as number of jackpots(Bonus rounds), number of spins since last jackpot, number of balls paid, etc?

[pachi_sloter]

Here are some rough translations. I didn't check to see what things are wired up to.

Red
球切れ
Out of Balls
(could also be translated as Ball Cutoff or Burned-out bulb)

Yellow
扉開放
Door Open

Blue
賞球
Prize Ball

Black
球貸し
Ball Loan

Green
制御
発射装置
Control
firing key


I'm not sure about the last one.

Firing control? Maybe it has something to do with launching the big rocket outside the parlor (see link).
http://www.so-net.ne.jp/SF-Online/no...cial1-2-1.html

[logicprobe]

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[arbycoffee]

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[Tulsa]

Here are some rough translations. I didn't check to see what things are wired up to.

Red
球切れ
Out of Balls
(could also be translated as Ball Cutoff or Burned-out bulb)

Yellow
扉開放
Door Open

Blue
賞球
Prize Ball

Black
球貸し
Ball Loan

Green
制御
発射装置
Control
firing key


I'm not sure about the last one.

Firing control? Maybe it has something to do with launching the big rocket outside the parlor (see link).
http://www.so-net.ne.jp/SF-Online/no...cial1-2-1.html

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[Bilko44]

Now, let's look for the sensors that trigger these outlets.

As I recall, we would need to use a 24 volt bulb to test the circuit. Using a 12 volt one could blow the circuit, right?

[dlowrey]

Here are some rough translations. I didn't check to see what things are wired up to.

Red
‹…�؂ê
Out of Balls
(could also be translated as Ball Cutoff or Burned-out bulb)

OK - I tested the easy one first :-)

This is a switch that is closed when the "Out of Balls" light is flashing. No voltage, just a switch/relay.

[dlowrey]

Blue
賞球
Prize Ball

Black
球貸し
Ball Loan

I only have a digital multi-meter to test this.

The blue connectors are a switch that close when a payout occurs. I assume it closes once per ball, but my meter isn't fast enough to tell.

I am assuming that the black connectors are a switch that closes when a ball is launched, but again my meter isn't fast enough to detect this.

No idea on the green ones. No voltages here and shorting them out doesn't seem to do anything either...

But, it looks like it IS possible to do at least a payout counter.

Anyone have a source for inexpensive counters?

Dave

[logicprobe]

You're on to something here, I believe.

I'm wondering if these types of sensor input / output signals are available on the DB connector on the back of my Giant 7. (looks like a printer port)

Maybe the input is to allow the balls to be shot? (firing key?)
Controlled by the external counters / credit system???
It may be shorted out intentionally... but being an input, it could be isolated with a relay or optics. That's why you wouldn't see a short with a meter. Try using the ohmmeter function, read with leads one way, then switch them. See if it's a diode that way. Or better yet, if you have a diode function on the meter, use that the same way.

When I look closer near that connector on the Giant 7, I see where someone, somewhere, has burned through the plastic cover on one of the boards, and shorted the output of what looks to be an optical isolator with a solder bridge.

This has some real possibilities! 8)

BTW... you see, I don't mind discussing things like this on a forum... I just don't want to PAY someone to do it!!!! :smt076

[dlowrey]

I'm wondering if these types of sensor input / output signals are available on the DB connector on the back of my Giant 7. (looks like a printer port)

I assume you mean this connector:


That is called a DB-25 connector. I always assumed that was for the card reader. However, you could be correct.

Finding out will be a bit of a pain, as the board that is on is buried deep in the machine, so it would be hard to get it out to trace the leads. I don't think I want to take my machine apart just for that.

However, if I get the time I will try a simple test to see if I can find the "door open" switch leads on that connector. I have a DB-25 test box that makes checking for continuity between two pins relatively ease. But unless I stumble on the lead combo quickly, it could take a few tries, as there are (2**25)/2 possible combinations of any two pins.... :cry:

[Lazarus]

On the gladiator that I had to sent back to slot usa Had a port like this and they had a matching plug with some kind circuit in it . If it was not plugged into the machine it would not work. Laz.

[arbycoffee]

That Replaces The Card Reader (CR) so the it is there. so it will work.

[logicprobe]

It is indeed a DB-25 connector... just wasn't sure if people would know what that meant... never know how deep into jargon I should go. When I say things like that around the house, people just look at me funny.

From your photo, it looks like there's a burn through in the plastic too, like I mentioned about mine. Did someone put a solder bridge on a component (probably an isolator) right behind that?

How about others with pachinko machines... what do you have here?

Good photos would be nice, if possible. (Thanks DL)

How about those of you with the "plug", or dongle as some call it. On the machines with those, are there holes burned through? I'd say probably not, as the plug is probably doing the same thing. My first guess... some sort of an enable signal... like Arby said - from the card reader. Combine that thought with the ball-in / ball-out signals, and we have more great possibilities here, gentlemen!!!

If my guess is correct, I doubt it would be a serial interface (they really wouldn't need that many pins if it was)... and parallel in some way. I really doubt it has the same pinouts as a printer port, but it could be.

[dlowrey]

From your photo, it looks like there's a burn through in the plastic too, like I mentioned about mine. Did someone put a solder bridge on a component (probably an isolator) right behind that?

Logic, where do you see a burn through? I'm not sure I understand what you mean?