julie the pinball pachinko

[dishpan]

To remove the cell in the machine (8 locks & 4 pink Connectors).

Allthough a picture is worth a thousand words, don't be intimidated by all the pictures. The proceedure is very simple and quick once you get familiar with it and the concept is the same for all manufacturers. After all, these machines were made for easy cell swapping in the Parlors, either for servicing or changing unpopular games.

lumina series

2005 Lumina case ...

2006 Lumina case

I've found that all the Lumina cases, 2005 and 2006 are physically the same. I swap my 2005 and 2006 cells into them all the time without any problems.

There is a big difference however between the Sankyo Victory and the Lumina case series and they are not interchangeable.

I believe that any cell of the same frame series should theoretically be interchangeable. I could be wrong in that there are many manufacturer's cases that I've not seen yet. My belief is based upon my experience with the Sankyo Victory and Lumina cases as well as the Heiwa "ThunderZone/Batman" case and the Taiyo "Penguin, Apollo, Giant 7, Sore Jansi and Gachinko" case.

Beware however of a couple of "Gotchas" such as; the Heiwa sound board is not attached to the cell but must be paired with the cell it is designed for and that some cell "main basis" boards are physically mounted to the rear sub-chassis and are not attached directly to the cell. These must also be matched and swapped along with the cell.

But once again, it looks and sounds more complicated than it really is.

[daverob]

lumina series ...

and that's not all !

My list of Lumina frame models from the most recent to oldest, for both Sankyo and Bisty, (sorry about some of the translations, my Japanese isn't that good...yet!)

Fever Queen Zero
Dokkan Rex
WINK
Chu Ra Island
Matsuura (松浦亜弥)
Vicky Chance
GO by Train! 2
man one [gaki] leader (男一匹ガキ大将)
Shimura World (Will Village World)
Super Stadium
Fever Powerful ZERO
Mikuni hit and miss
Indiana Jones
Julie the Pinball
New Century Evangelion Second Impact
Gingatetsudo (Milky Way railroad story)
Onmyoji (positive negative principles teacher)
A****aga Arusa (There is a tomorrow, even if the original world)
Reckless driving king Ogawa Naoya
Marylin Monroe
Miracle Carpet
Pochi
Kagetsu Gaiden
Yoshida Takuro's summer vacation
Yun Sona
Iijima Naoko's Casino
Takarabune (treasure boat)
Daimajin (Great Demon God)
Yukemuri Kikou (hot water unreasonable travelogue)
Neo Powerful
You regard bloom field Tomomi, the hatch (華原朋美とみなしごハッチ)
Star Wars
New Century Evangelion
Great Yamato 2 (Star blazers 2)

As you can see there's a good choice of models amongst this lot.

[birdbrain]

the other option is to poorly pack it in a crappy box and ship it to yourself it's guaranteed to show up already disassembled!!
I had forgotten about bisty machines

[arbycoffee]

You can use for Sankyo Lumina white or yellow and the Bisty screw tea red or orange, Frames for any of these cells todate.
CRF Large Yamato 2
CRF Star Wars
CRF NEO powerful
CRF Hot Water Unreasonable Travelogue
CRF Bloom Field Beauty, hatch
CRF Large Demon God
CRF New Century I
CRF Yoon Sona
CRF Lijima Direct Child (Casino)
CRF Takuro's Yoshida Summer Vacation Full
CRF Treasure Boat
CRF Marilyn
CRF Flower Month
CRF Tomorrow, Even If Original World
CRF reckless driving king
CRF positive and negative principles teacher
CRF Milky Way railroad story
CRF Julie the pinball
CRF Indiana Jones
CRF miracle carpet
CRF New Century II ( [evuangerion]* Second impact )
CRF Truth Three Hit & Miss
CRF NEO powerful Zero
CRF Super Stadium
CRF Will village world
CRF Streetcar Go 2
CRF Vicky Chance
CRF man one [gaki] leader
CRF Matsuura sub- 弥
CRF beauty and others island MF-T2

[arbycoffee]

the green case too! and others cells these I know do

[pauhaus]

Congrats on your new Julie. You're going to love it. Thanks for the advice about swapping cells out. I just ordered a Star Blazers cell from Arby. I'm going to give it a go (when I decide to give Julie a break)

All the best.

[dhcloud]

Now that I have an Arbyized Indy coming to me shortly, it looks like I might have to start looking for some cells too. As 3 different cells that I want ( Star Blazers, Julie's Pinball and Evangelian Second Impact) are supported by the case. I never had much luck with Yahoo Japan so I might have to get some more late Xmas presents for myself by getting some more stuff from Arby. It makes sense with limited space and not having to build extra cabinets for every new machine. Plus you get some more internal knowledge of the machines if you are switching them out.

Also thanks to everyone for the tips and tutorials on cell swapping

[fronzdan]

I've found that all the Lumina cases, 2005 and 2006 are physically the same. I swap my 2005 and 2006 cells into them all the time without any problems.

I believe that any cell of the same frame series should theoretically be interchangeable. I could be wrong in that there are many manufacturer's cases that I've not seen yet. My belief is based upon my experience with the Sankyo Victory and Lumina cases as well as the Heiwa "ThunderZone/Batman" case and the Taiyo "Penguin, Apollo, Giant 7, Sore Jansi and Gachinko" case.

Thanks for all the info. It looks like everyone except dishpan talked exclusively about the Lumina or Bisty cases. Does that mean that it would be harder to get cells for other brand cases? Looking at my Nishijin case, I see there are tabs similar to those in Arby's pictures, so I assume you CAN pull this cell out.

And this is probably dumb, but is the only way to get a Lumina case, to buy one of the machines that come in one...meaning that you can't get a case by itself?

[drcrippen324]

you can buy a case by itself and you can swap out cells in as far as i know any modern machien.(as long as they match) The reason i think that it is mainly the lumina case mentioned as it is one of the most populer cases with alot more cells for it than some of the other cases

[arbycoffee]

yahoo got them and you can get them shipped here to the states. You need to go thru an agent.
Cost will depend on the newist of the frame as to cost, your agent will be paid 10% onthe auction and shipping to him, than shipping here to you and again the agent fee for all the packing for here.
I got frame in as little as $325 and as high as $550 for new.

so it is work on yourself to shop for your best price.

my 2¢ worth

[arbycoffee]

Beware however of a couple of "Gotchas" such as; the Heiwa sound board is not attached to the cell but must be paired with the cell it is designed for and that some cell "main basis" boards are physically mounted to the rear sub-chassis and are not attached directly to the cell. These must also be matched and swapped along with the cell.

But once again, it looks and sounds more complicated than it really is.

YES, we found this out the hard way, we did.

[compirate]

Although a case may look similar, there are sometimes older and newer versions (different connectors). So far all Sankyo/Bisty cels within a similar case line fit that case (Lumina 05-06, Victory 03-04, Tatsumaki 02, FF99/FF 96-01, Stellar 92-95).

[Tulsa]

I just hit a fever round on Julie... To.ki.o -

[drcrippen324]

amazing how that song sticks in ya mind for days after isent it

[arbycoffee]

Cool Beaners & Weinies I likey Fine !

[hanabi]

I just hit a fever round on Julie... To.ki.o - http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/14.gif

T O K I O 's and the other tracks are pretty good too!

I bet there was much Singing & Dancing in the Tulsa Household yesterday!!!

Just be careful when you're out and about in the real world - as singing it at the top of my voice in a small town where I live - meant I have been getting strange looks ever since.................

On second thoughts - that could be for an entirely different reason?

Yeah - Julie will really your world - and that little Pinball Table is really something else, isn't it!

[Chris]

Well after the great Arby was good enough to put up the thread showing the excellent photos & instructions on removing a cell I thought I would give it a go. The pictures made it appear to be a very simple job (I think probably because they were clear & simple), something I wouldn't have thought simple by just looking in the back of my Star Wars.

Anyway I have to be honest at this point and say that I am not very technically minded, but sod it I thought I would give it a go - what could be the worst that could happen

Cutting a long story short, it really is as simple as Arby, the Doc & others have said. It took me less than 15 minutes to get it dis-assembled, take a couple of pictures to show you & then put it back together.

SWBefore.JPG

SWCell.JPG

Emptycase.JPG

SWBacktogether.JPG

The first picture is of my Star Wars before taking the cell out, the 2nd is of the cell removed, the 3rd picture is of my empty case (ready for my new cell of maybe Julie or Indy - Santa you listening or reading this ?) & the last picture is of it all back together & working.

So in summary from someone with no experience of doing anything like this before is it really is as simple as it looks. I certainly will now be looking to get some new cells (PM to Doc on its way )

[compirate]

Yea!!! Another Convert!!!

Now, on to a closet of cels!

[fronzdan]

Cool...looks very easy to do! For the price range Arby mentioned and the "hassle" of getting one, it sounds like it's better to just pick up a machine that comes in a 2005 - 2006 Lumina case.

So isn't StarWars a 2004 machine? If I got one of those, the case would still be compatible, yes?

[birdbrain]

starwars is 2005