How acurate/consistent are the ball shooters?

[jweaver]

I was under the impression that the 'skill' of Pachinko was finding the right power for the shooter and then holding it there.

I have been watching mine today and found that even if I hold my hand really steady on a given power setting, the balls all fire different distances at the top of the board.

There is quite a lot in it.. I would say that the variation is about 1" if not more.. Obviously when it hits some pins the "random" aspect comes into play.. But I am talking about the ball BEFORE it hits anyhthing. The ball comes out of its 'channel' and then over the top, where it runs out of energy and drops.. What I have notices is that the point where it 'drops' varies for each and every ball.

Are the shooters generally consistent or is this normal?

Jon

[Lddrizzt]

It's off a whole inch? Sometimes even more? Sounds like you might have gotten a USED MACHINE!!
Here's an idea, how about not worrying about if the balls are shooting exactly the same each time, or if the light pattern is supposed to do that, or if the leds are slightly off color, or why you haven't won yet, etc, etc.
Why don't you just start playing your machines and enjoying them, quit looking for things to be wrong.
Everyone here has the same things happening to them, but they play with their machines and have fun. You don't get pachinko, yes we know this. SO just play it and enjoy it, if you still don't get it then sell your machine and get something else.
You need to stop over analyzing everything and just play.

[websherpa]

Whoah Lddrizt, did you get up on the wrong side of bed this morning?

Every new Pachislo / Pachinko owner goes through a phase of over analytics (me included), and need to be supported by the more experienced members.

EDIT: P.S. Lddrizzt, I didn't mean to suggest that you weren't one of the most supportive members (which you are), it just seemed that the reply was a little out of character.

jweaver: As far as I can tell the inconsistency is consistently normal. Some shooters are more accurate than others. What I find is that if you're in the range of the centre of the top nail, you seem to get the most wins (but that varies), but it does make using the single shot button a bit useless. Mostly I use it for stopping the balls in time to the wings opening, or after I've banked 4 spins.

My family is all from Wattsville (near Crosskeys/Risca and Newport), you can guess my favourite cheese (for a cheese and onion sandwich) I see you're from South Wales. Ever since I was a lad I've pined after having a fruit machine after winning 20 pounds in a local pub machine (in the late 70's).

[dattia]

Every new Pachislo / Pachinko owner goes through a phase of over analytics (me included), and.......

OK, this NEVER happened to me I just play them and really don't care what is supposed to happen, what should have happened or such. I know that of the 3 machines I have, I really couldn't tell you anything very specific about any of them...EXCEPT...I laugh a lot when I play Betty, so she is my favorite. It's that simple for me.... Don't get me wrong, I enjoy reading the posts of the members here that really delve into the details, but at times I wonder if the fun has been lost in the process.

[websherpa]

I think it has to do with personality type. If you're an "A" type (or "AA" type as me), then a lot of the fun / hobby comes out of analyzing the machine, refurbishing it to the best condition, figuring out how it works, making mods or accessories, ball handling systems etc.

I have two sides, times where I'm intensely involved (and leads to such things as a fix for burning out Eleco Reel LEDs) and others where I just play the game for the Zen of it and thrill of a bonus (and I do love playing both Pachinko and Pachislo, even though I'm the "house" and there really are no prizes. (In fact I lost more than the cost of a Pachislo machine in about half an hour at the Slots Casino the other day. I go maybe 2 times a year.)

Others I think play it for an hour; don't see past the simplicity of it (miss the Zen) get bored and move on. I find that having 3 machines keeps me enthralled and the more I play each, the more I get to like the individual play characteristics of each.

[Sid]

Bad Lddrizzt

No Cheese and Onion sandwiches for you.....

[dattia]

...as long as your having fun!!!

[websherpa]

...as long as your having fun!!!

Absolutely agreed.

No cheese and onion, and no Hedgehog flavoured crisps either!

[dattia]

Absolutely agreed.

No cheese and onion, and no Hedgehog flavoured crisps either!

Somehow, I'm thinking thats a good thing.

[websherpa]

Somehow, I'm thinking thats a good thing.

Yes, but if anyone ever offers you a "Bakestone" spit cake, or a Welsh cake - take it. They're absolutely pukka. (OK, wrong language idiom, but you get the picture.)

[Sid]

Spotted Dick for everyone..!!!!

[websherpa]

Thank God no one mentioned Tongue, Haggis or Mushy Peas.... Oops, I think I just did.

Now, if I was visiting Greece, the first thing I'd order would be Saganaki (Opa!) the last thing...Miala (urp!)

[luckydog]

I don't analize reach patterns or the fine details of playing. I just enjoy my machines.

If it needs a bulb, I replace it, if its too loud I take care of that. other than adjusting a few nails on my pachinkos to make them more fun to play I just enjoy them.

These are used machines running 24/7 in Japanese Palours for many months and we are getting them for just pennies on the dollar from what they cost new.

so, just relax and enjoy your toys

[Sid]

Actually not too many places sell Miala (sheeps brains)

a few places sell Kefalakia (sheeps heads)

or the most hideous thing is KOKORETSI.....

which is skewered sheep heart / lung / liver / kidneys wrapped in sheep intestine...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokoretsi

disgusting if you ask me.. but to each his own.....

[jweaver]

Wow.. I didn't expect that reaction.. I am just trying to learn.. I don't really care if its not working correctly, I am just trying to understand what the GREAT attraction with Pachico is.

You have to understand that as an engineer, my whole life is based on trying to understand how things work.. For me, I get more joy out of understanding my new hobbies than actually playing/doing.. Its just my thing.. I have done almost every hobby there is, but my main passion comes out of learning new things/skills, rather than actually doing the hobby. I know some people might not undersatnd that, but its just the way I am.

But there is a real reason for asking this. I am having a hard time understand why Pachinko is so attractive.. Not just amongst the members of this board, but as a pastime in Japan... I was under the impression that there was a 'skill' to it and that was finding the 'sweet spot' on a given machine and holding it to maximize your winnings.. But from what I can tell, this may not be as simple as it sounds as the whole shooting system seems wowfully inaccurate. As I said, I never thought that mine was broken, I just wanted to understand what I am missing (if anything).

I am sorry if I caused offence.. I was just asking as I was intreagued..

Jon

[dattia]

....thanks for that......

[Sid]

Jon,

No offence is caused, your posts add to the greatness that is pachitalk.

but ask yourself this, could the reason you dont get Pachinko be that you are trying to "Get it" too much

play relax and enjoy...

everything else will fall into place...



and as for you dattia,

....thanks for that......

the man makes a comment from the innermost part of his being and you give him the fish eyes..
i think the leather and motorcycle have gone to your head

NO KOKORETSI FOR YOU!!

[dattia]

NO KOKORETSI FOR YOU!!

Thank You!!!

Anyway, my fisheyes were for the lovely description of that fine Greek delicacy.

[websherpa]

or the most hideous thing is KOKORETSI.....

which is skewered sheep heart / lung / liver / kidneys wrapped in sheep intestine...

Oh see now that you can get here in Toronto!

[johntofva]

I have four pachinkos, and they all are pretty accurate. If yours has such a wide range, I would have to assume that it was tampered with in the parlor.

The attraction to pachinko for me is the fast pace of the action on the machine. Mine are the Maturi type which means there is a lot to keep up with. You get 16 shoots to maximise your winnings. With in those shoots you have to: 1. Hit the "16" slot to double your winnings. 2. Hit the start pocket. 3. Try to line up 4 or more in a row on the bottom slots. And hoping the whole time that you hit a bonus round. That is only "16" shoots in the fast pace action of pachinko..........Which is about 7 seconds......For me, I love pachinko. There is nothing like it. Except for HALO.......